RE: Wireless Security

["Herman Frederick Ebeling, Jr." <hfebelingjr () lycos com>]

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Jeff,

        Your scenario, reminds me of what happened with a friend of mine when he was
working at either an apartment
complex/building.  It seems that the owner had gotten a "wild hair" and wanted
to go into ALL of the units and made the
statement "this is my property and I want to go in and check on them."  Well he
went into one where the renter worked
nights and who obviously was NOT expecting any "company" during the day.  Well
hearing someone in his apartment he
grabs his gun, and when confronted by the "intruder" shoots him.  Now here's
where it gets "fun."  As the EMTs are
wheeling the landlord out on a gurney, and the cops are talking to him, he
demands that they arrest the shooter.  And
(no pun intended) to literally add insult to injury the cops tell him, that they
can't.  Cause the tenant was within
HIS rights to shoot the man/landlord. . .

        As for my questions I would say that IF person a is on person b's WLAN they are
a criminal and have NO expectation to
privacy, IF they get a virus it's their fault for NOT having a good anti-virus
PRG in place.  And IF there is more then
one person leaching Wi-Fi access and IF person c "invades" person a's computer
and reads/deletes files/MSGs oh well.

Herman

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From: cerealkilla () cox net [mailto:cerealkilla () cox net]
Sent: Wednesday, 12 October, 2005 20:17
To: hfebelingjr () lycos com
Subject: RE: Wireless Security


I believe it would best be answered as I saw someone say. It's like walking into
someone else's house just because they
left the door open. It's still illegal and you still might get shot, if you get
shot it's your own fault not theirs,
it's not your house you don't belong there period. Just because they don't put
up a sign that says don't enter my house
doesn't mean you can. Now apply this to Wireless and there's your answer. Can
you legally go into someone's house and
just look around? No, and if something happens while your in there it's still
your fault.

If your neighbor is on your Wireless, Turn on WPA, turn off Broadcast SSID's and
no more problems. If you're on your
neighbors Wi-Fi stop, get your own and lock it down!

Thank You,
     Jeff D. Dixon
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From: Herman Frederick Ebeling, Jr. [mailto:hfebelingjr () lycos com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 3:17 PM
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Wireless Security


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I've got a question (actually a few) along these lines.  Let's say that a person
has a Wi-Fi network setup at home.
And they find out that some of their neighbors have accessed it.

A)      What if any obligation to the neighbors does the person who initially setup
the Wi-Fi network have?
B)      What happens IF one neighbor goes in and reads/deletes msgs/files from
another neighbor's computer is the person who
initially setup the Wi-Fi network for their own use liable?
C)      Can the person who initially setup the Wi-Fi network legally go in and look
around his/her neighbors computers?
D)      What if one the neighbors get a virus, is the person who initially setup the
Wi-Fi network liable?
E)      What if any expectations to privacy do the unauthorized users have?

Herman

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From: Daryl Davis [mailto:daryl () ultbingo com]
Sent: Tuesday, 04 October, 2005 12:56
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Wireless blocking


I believe I have an unauthorized wireless router on my network.  I have been
unable to physically find it as of yet.

Does anyone know how to find the hidden SSID and then Jam it?

Thank you.

Daryl R Davis
Digital Game Media, Inc.

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