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Re: Wireless Security
From: pand0ra.usa () gmail com
Date: 13 Oct 2005 19:04:31 -0000
Disclaimer: I am not an attorney, just a security professional.
I've got a question (actually a few) along >>these lines. Let's say that a person has a Wi->>Fi network setup at home. And they find out >>that some of their neighbors have accessed it.
A) What if any obligation to the neighbors does >>the person who initially setup the Wi-Fi >>network have?
None. If someone access your wireless network without your authorization (preferably written) then it is illegal.
B) What happens IF one neighbor goes in and >>reads/deletes msgs/files from another neighbor's computer is the person who initially setup the Wi-Fi network for their own >>use liable?
You are using a 3 person example here right? The way Wi-fi works is that if you are in the middle with the AP and Neighbor 1 attacks Neighbor 2 would not affect you. Wireless 802.11x signals can be detected up to 2 miles away with a $50 antenna. In any case the MAC address of the attacker would be broadcasted. The AP would only supply a IP address for both neighbors and would not show the attack comming from your AP.
C) Can the person who initially setup the Wi-Fi >>network legally go in and look around his/her >>neighbors computers?
No. Not without authorization.
D) What if one the neighbors get a virus, is >>the person who initially setup the Wi-Fi >>network liable?
Doubtful. There would have to proof of intent to harm the other system.
E) What if any expectations to privacy do the >>unauthorized users have?
Tough question. Ideally, you should expect complete privacy. If you are not using encryption then anyone driving by can access your network and see all of the traffic on it. Realistically, do not expect privacy on any wireless network, ever. - -----Original Message----- From: Daryl Davis [mailto:daryl (at) ultbingo (dot) com [email concealed]] Sent: Tuesday, 04 October, 2005 12:56 To: security-basics (at) securityfocus (dot) com [email concealed]
Subject: Wireless blocking
I believe I have an unauthorized wireless >>router on my network. I have been unable to >>physically find it as of yet.
Does anyone know how to find the hidden SSID >>and then Jam it?
Ok, 2 things here. 1. You can use a program like netstumbler to find nearby AP's. When you find them DON'T 'jam' them. It is illegal. It is called a DoS (Denial of Service) and is seen as a malicous attack.
Thank you.
Daryl R Davis Digital Game Media, Inc.
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