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RE: advice
From: Nat.Hague () omigroup com
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 10:39:26 -0000
In my opinion; if you have acheived an MCSE alone it is a foundation certificate to prove you can learn and have learnt. Once this is coupled with practical experienced, and another certification it shows a good understanding of your trade. The same could be said for any single certification. As you do not expand on why you do not like MCSE It is difficult to argue a case, however; as the MCSE is so widely accepted, and successful, and as you seem to have a great belief that you know it all, I would say do it. From my personal experience I would say, if you are doing the job and can 'apply learning' the exams are purely a formality. Couple with any other certification, I would say it is a 'must' unless you are a Linux guru and are marketing yourself towards that platform. regards Nat -----Original Message----- From: Jeff McLaughlin [mailto:JMclaughlin () springsgov com] Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 10:13 PM To: 'John Kampanellis'; security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: RE: advice IMHO, Network Security will rely on your ability to be proficient in many disciplines. To secure your network it is very helpful to understand what is running on it and how it runs on it. Network security crosses all boundaries and being effective means you have a working knowledge of networks and the apps/OS that run on them. You need breadth as well as depth. Understand that although helpful, it is not a good idea to learn the material with the goal of just passing a test. Your goal should be a through knowledge of the subject which should allow you to then pass the test. A certification process you could follow could be. To demonstrate you understand the network environment. CCNA (Network), MCP-Windows 2000 Server & Networks (OS), Linux+ or other linux cert(OS), Security+ (or other basic type security cert) To demonstrate you have depth. CCNP or CCSP, MCSE or MCSP, CISSP (or other mid-level security cert), To be an "expert" CCIE, RHSE, multiple certs in apps database, programming. HTH, Jeff McLaughlin MCSE,MCNE,CCNP,CSS,MCDBA,MCSD,Linux+,Infosec P.S. I think I have a very good knowledge of networks because of my MCSE certification. -----Original Message----- From: John Kampanellis [mailto:ikampa () enst fr] Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 12:49 AM To: security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: advice Hi! I know my question has already been asked, but I think that answers do not follow the rule one size fit all. What I would like, is the chance to get as much as I can from the maturity and experience of the people joinning this list. I come from Greece. I a holder of a diploma in Electrical and Computer Engineering and I am about to finish my MSc in System and Network Security, pursued in France. Considering, that I am about to finish my internship, I have to thing what to do next. I decided that a first step before entering the market, could be to get a certificate. But which one? I am pationned with security and and I am very intersted in networks. My opinion is that being successful in the security domain, requires from someone to have a very good knowedge of networks and systems.So my questions are the following: 1)Should I get a certificate in networks , i.e. CCNA? Since I have an MSc in security may be being certified in networking is better. I believe that I know 70% of what CCNA covers. However, may a certificate may help me at the beginning of my carreer. 2)Should I get a ceritificate in security and in that case which one? I know some of you would recommend me certificates such as:GIAC, CISSP, CSSP. However, the problem is that I don't thing there are centers in Greece where I can get the exams. The only one for which I have found a exam center is "Security Certified Program (SCP)". What is your opinion about? 3)My third option (which I don't like so much) is a Microsoft Certificate such as MSSE. I am asking you, even though I don't like this option so much. I don't thing that people in Microsoft have real good knowledge about networking or security. Thanks in advance, John --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. 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- RE: advice Jeff McLaughlin (Jan 05)
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- Re: advice Meritt James (Jan 06)
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