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Re: advice
From: Jimi Thompson <jimit () myrealbox com>
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 23:50:26 -0600
John Kampanellis wrote:
Hi! I know my question has already been asked, but I think that answers do not follow the rule one size fit all. What I would like, is the chance to get as much as I can from the maturity and experience of the people joinning this list. I come from Greece. I a holder of a diploma in Electrical and Computer Engineering and I am about to finish my MSc in System and Network Security, pursued in France. Considering, that I am about to finish my internship, I have to thing what to do next. I decided that a first step before entering the market, could be to get a certificate. But whichone?I am pationned with security and and I am very intersted in networks. My opinion is that being successful in the security domain, requires from someone to have a very good knowedge of networks and systems.So my questions are the following:
The biggest question is what do you want to do? Security is very demanding. You get the 3am phone calls and you cannot dodge the bullet. No one likes to see you coming because you are ALWAYS the bringer of bad news - something is either broken or is likely to become broken. You spend money but have a very hard time with "ROI". You also spend a sigificant portion of your job making people do things that they don't really want to do. That said, I love what I do. It's just not for everyone. You have to find what you want to do, which may or may not be security. It may or may not be networking. It may or may not be Microsoft. If you find what you want do and your heart is really in it, you'll be good at it in time. If you are good at it, the money will come. Really, the money is irrelevant. The bigger isssue is that no one on this list can answer these questions for you because only you know where your heart lies and only you know what you truly love doing.
1)Should I get a certificate in networks , i.e. CCNA? Since I have an MSc in security may be being certified in networking isNetwork & Security together usually make a nice combo.better. I believe that I know 70% of what CCNA covers. However, may a certificate may help me at the beginning of my carreer.
2)Should I get a ceritificate in security and in that case which one? I know some of you would recommend me certificates such as:GIAC, CISSP, CSSP. However, the problem is that I don't thing there are centers in Greece where I can get the exams. The only one for which I have found a exam center is "Security Certified Program (SCP)". What is your opinion about?
Since you are not out of school as yet, you likely do not have sufficient job experience to qualify for a CISSP (requires 4 years of full time work experience in Security). You might qualify for the SANS/GIAC
3)My third option (which I don't like so much) is a Microsoft Certificate such as MSSE. I am asking you, even though I don't like this option so much. I don't thing that people in Microsoft have real good knowledge about networking or security.
I have a rather poor opionion of most of the Microsoft certs. They crank out too many people who can't get out of their own way much less actually accomplish anything.
Thanks in advance, John --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
HTH, Jimi
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