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RE: A reminder that security is not inherently solvable with tech nology


From: "Hagen, Eric" <ehagen () DenverNewspaperAgency com>
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:41:52 -0700

Ah, yes most first-world countries do not treat extortion lightly.  However,
most first-world countries pay their workers more than corporations are
happy to provide, so the data ends up in developing countries where there is
little legal framework to protect data privacy. That is more what I was
referring to.

Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul O'Malley [mailto:ompaul () eircom net]
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 5:01 AM
To: Hagen, Eric
Cc: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: A reminder that security is not inherently solvable with
tech nology


On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 19:02, Hagen, Eric wrote:
The fact is that in the US, an individual would likely be arrested for
even
threatening to release this information.  The problem with the countries
overseas is that US laws, especially the privacy laws, are virtually
unenforcable.  While the activity of releasing that information it illegal
in the US, it is not usually illegal in another country, therefore, even
if
the individual released that information while residing in his native
country, his actions would be entirely lawfull, and even under extradition
treaties, the US would have little or no recourse in sequestering that
information, which is a huge problem.

Just my 2c.

Eric 
Well now there is a slight misunderstanding - in the EU you can get a
very big kick if you are naughty with other peoples data.
It should be noted that moving personal data out of the EU to process it
elsewhere is not legal. 
The US or Switzerland or any other place for that matter is not
considered a safe harbour for data.


Paul


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