RE: RE : Don't BOUNCE the list!

["Jon Pastore" <jpastore () idetech net>]

Yea but then you could just fake headers from security focus... But I
mean that would be a pretty devoted spammer

Jon Pastore, President
IDE Tech, Inc.
(954) 360-0393 Office
(954) 428-0442 Fax



-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Santerre [mailto:csanterre () MerchantsOverseas com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:10 PM
To: Security-Basics "(E-mail)
Subject: RE: RE : Don't BOUNCE the list!


SO the software can't have a whitelist? You don't need to look at
context. If it is from lists.securitybasics.com or has the standard
header info there is no need to look any further. 

I also agree, then don't bounce anything at all. Then I know I got a
live email address and I just have to beat the filters. 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bourque Daniel [mailto:Daniel.Bourque () loto-quebec com]
> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 2:50 PM
> To: Security-Basics "(E-mail)
> Subject: RE : Don't BOUNCE the list!
>
>
> The simplest thing to do is NOT sending back any info to the
> sender in case
> of filtering.  I only advise my internal user in case of any 
> filtering in
> the incoming mail.
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Kevin Saenz [mailto:ksaenz () spinaweb com au]
> Envoyé : 12 avril, 2003 18:02
> À : Chris Santerre
> Cc : Security-Basics "(E-mail)
> Objet : Re: Don't BOUNCE the list!
>
>
> It's the limitation of the software their organisation
> employs. It doesn't
> have the intellegence to look at the context in which the 
> word was used. 
>
> If we can't say to block porn because porn is a bad word in
> your systems
> vocab then how are we supposed to help you out? Or don't you 
> want our help?
>
>
> > Come on guys! You join a security list that will no doubt
> talk about
> > blocking P_0_R_N.stuff. Then you block messages containing
> this topic!
> > Whitelist the list! I respond to a post only to receive a ton of
> > bounced messages in my inbox because my reply contains a 
> discussion on
> > blocking this stuff. ARGH!
> >  
> > This is a sure fire way for your posts to end up in the bit
> bucket of
> > other subscribers.
> >  
> > /end rant.
> > Chris Santerre
> > System Admin
> > "A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men." -
> > Willy Wonka
> >
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