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Re: Securing file access


From: Joseph Miller <joseph () tidetamerboatlifts com>
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 08:42:55 -0400

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Would it be possible to change the content type on the server side to a 
generic binary file to prevent acrobat reader from loading in the plugin 
mode?  If it is possible, then Windows would ask the user to open the file, 
the PDF extension would be found, and the file would open externally.

- -Joseph


On Thursday 30 September 2004 6:15 pm, Calderon, Juan Carlos (GE Commercial 
Finance, NonGE) wrote:
woah!

Sending a path in a hidden field to remove a file in server doesn't sound
good to me.  be carefull with this approach!


-----Original Message-----
From: Beckner, Chad A [mailto:cbeckner () iupui edu]
Sent: MiƩrcoles, 29 de Septiembre de 2004 09:09 p.m.
To: Shields, Larry; webappsec () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Securing file access


You could also copy the file to a temporary read-only directory, and run
an administrative script to clean out the temp directory every night,
hour, or even after the user has received the file (i.e. on the next
page hit using a hidden variable, such as "remove_file",
value="adobe.pdf").

- Chad

-----Original Message-----
From: Shields, Larry [mailto:Larry.Shields () FMR COM]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 1:16 PM
To: webappsec () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Securing file access


      Be aware that the acrobat reader if using the IE browser plug-in
viewer has been known to have problems when using this method to send
PDF files.  We have seen common problems where users ended up with blank
documents or received errors about the PDF file not being correct.  From
what I've seen, the two solutions if you can't have this possible
failure are to either a) make customers all change their acrobat reader
configuration to start in "helper" mode (meaning kick off acrobat
external to the browser plug-in) or b) store things on the file system
and redirect the user to the PDF file.  Option b does have issues to
make sure it is done securely of course, such as clean-up of old files,
making sure that file names cannot be guessed or predicted by other
users, and that there is no potential for file naming collisions between
users.

-Larry


-----Original Message-----
From: Ian [mailto:webappsec2 () fishnet co uk]
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 5:05 AM
To: John M. L.; webappsec () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: Securing file access

On 27 Sep 2004 at 11:57, John M. L. wrote:
I have a project that involves a members only area on web page on IIS.
The members' only area is secured by a database (MS Access) so users
are authenticated by their name and some MD5 hash etc.  I need to
allow files (mostly PDFs) for download to authenticated users only.
In my opinion this means that the files can not be stored in any www
accessible folder (regardless of any renaming convention etc, I
absolutely cannot have someone guess a file name to download).  In
order to access the files, the database would link a file to a unique
id, so a page that validates the user would then give access to the
file stored outside of the www on the server.  Now, this is where the
real question lies.  How is this possible since the files are not in a

www accessible path, since a mere link to a file won't due.

Any thoughts would be welcome.  If I'm going about this completely
wrong that would be nice to no too :)  Forgive me if the answer is
simple, I'm a Linux fan and haven't used IIS etc for years.
One more note: IIS, MS Access and VBScript are not my technologies of
choice, but merely what I was given to work with.  I also have very
limited control over administering IIS.

John
www.recaffeinated.com

Hi John,

You are going about this the right way.

Store the PDFs outside the www root, but still give the user
ISR_<computer name> permission to read the files ( or whatever user your
site is running under).  Once the web user has authenticated, your
script can read the PDF into memory then stream the file to the user.  A
simple example is below:

<%

set fs=server.createobject("Scripting.filesystem")

set PDFin=fs.opentextfile(pathtoPDF,1,false)
PDF=PDFin.readall
PDFin.close
set PDFin=nothing

Response.contenttype="application/pdf"

resonse.binarywrite StrToBin(PDF)

response.end

function StrToBin(str)
      for x=1 to Len(str)
              StrToBin=StrToBin & ChrB(Asc(Mid(str,x,1)))
      next
end function

%>

You may not need to use the StrToBin function - I can't remember off the
top of my
head ;)

Regards

Ian
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