Re: Civil Disobedience

[White Vampire <whitevampire () mindless com>]

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On Mon, Oct 15, 2001 at 12:47:43PM -0500, Joel Rivers(rivers () lcms org) wrote:
> What civil liberties are we giving up?  Since when is hacking,
> virus-writing, and website defacing a civil liberty?  I
> will agree that life imprisionment is a little harsh for defacing
> a web site but I think that harsher penalties hopefully will serve as a
> deterent for this type of behavior.

        Let the punishment fit the crime, comes to mind.  It is not
defined clearly enough to limit to cleancut illegal behavior.  It could
affect computer professionals involved in the computer security world,
at least that was my impression.

> I'll say that the "increase in government surveillance authority" is the
> primary area of concern in regards to "losing civil liberties" in this bill.
> If anything, this is the area we should be focusing our concern, not on
> harsh penalties for those who are attempting illegal behavior.

        That is definitely of concern.  It is
unconstitutional.  Regardless, there are multiple angles that must be
considered.  The infringement attempts and successes upon freedom in the
United States as of late are outright disgusting.

        It is unnecessary to quote the entire message.

Regards,
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