Re: What do I need to configure in snort.conf to protect against segmentation attacks?

[Emeka Agu <mainmen1985 () gmail com>]

Hi all again. I had to directly email Joel for this, just seeing if anyone
else can see what's going on:

*So my rule now is*

alert tcp any any -> 192.68.4.250  any  (msg:”Testing TCP Flow”;
> > flow:to_server, established; content:”/root/hacked”; nocase; sid:11114;
*My payload for 3 packets is: "/roo", "t/hac" and "ked", sent
as separate streams, with flags "PA"*
*set*
*
*
*My Stream5 con in snort.conf is:*
*
*

preprocessor stream5_global: track_tcp yes, \
   track_udp no, \
   track_icmp no, \
preprocessor stream5_tcp: policy First, detect_anomalies, \
    ports client 23

(rest is truncated)


*My Windows 7 machine sees the payload from port 23 as: /root/hacked. *
*
*
*But Snort see nada. Absolutely nothing. Snort does work with my
custom attacks to, so I know it's working OK.*
*
*
*I have no idea what's going on! Please help!*



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On 26 August 2012 11:44, Gmail Personal <mainmen1985 () gmail com> wrote:

> I should also add I changed the port targeted to 22, just in case
> something was going weird. And I have added the port to the Stream5 option
>
> Weird!
>
> *Emeka* Agu | Sent from  *iPad*
>
> On 26 Aug 2012, at 11:30, Emeka Agu <mainmen1985 () gmail com> wrote:
>
> Hi Tony thanks for the help. Still get the problem!
>
> I followed this guide too:
> http://searchsecuritychannel.techtarget.com/tip/Snorts-Stream5-and-TCP-overlapping-fragmentswhere Richard did exactly 
> the same thing as me
>
> And edited my Stream5 TCP policy to include the reassembly Port, but it
> still didn't detect anything. Surely something is wrong, or is Snort that
> easily beaten by segmented TCP streams?
>
> Thanks
>
> On 23 August 2012 18:27, Tony Robinson <deusexmachina667 () gmail com> wrote:
>
> > I'd check your frag3 and stream 5 settings in snort.conf, verify that
> > stream5 is enabled and that TCP streams are being assembled. according to
> > the snort manual, stream reassembly for port 80 from client operating
> > systems is a default setting in snort.conf -- Double check that, maybe set
> > port 80 to both. Additionally, look into the stream_assembly rule option,
> > and integrate it into your rule to ensure that TCP streams are being
> > reassembled.
> >
> > http://manual.snort.org/node33.html#SECTION004621000000000000000
> >
> > In regards to ip fragmentation, try changing frag3 back to the defaults
> > and see what happens.
> >
> > Try running a packet capture (i.e. use snort, wireshark, tshark or
> > tcpdump) and get a pcap on the interface snort is listening on to ensure
> > the traffic is being dropped/modified somewhere in transit -- you need to
> > verify what your snort sensor is seeing.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > -Tony
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:55 AM, Emeka Agu <mainmen1985 () gmail com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi there, I've created some code in Scapy to create a successful 3WH and
> > > then push a segmented keyword (/root/hacked) over 3 packets.
> > >
> > > I also created these three rules in snort (I know the rule with no flow
> > > direction set is pointless, but I needed it to confirm my findings)
> > >
> > > 1) alert tcp any any -> $HOME_NET  80 (msg:”Testing TCP”;
> > > content:”/root/hacked”; nocase; sid:11112;)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2) alert ip any any -> $HOME_NET  80 (msg:”Testing IP Frag”;
> > > content:”/root/hacked”; nocase; sid:11113;)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 3) alert tcp any any -> $HOME_NET  80 (msg:”Testing TCP Flow”;
> > > flow:to_server, established; content:”/root/hacked”; nocase; sid:11114;)
> > >
> > >
> > > But none of them are alerted when I send the packets. Wireshark manages
> > > to see the packets and when I select Follow TCP Stream, and it displays the
> > > content in full.
> > >
> > >
> > > IP tables has been turned off too I tested with an earlier evasion
> > > attempt just using a fragmented packet where it split the keyword into
> > > "/roo" and "t/hacked" and  Snort detected it. I used exactly the same
> > > destination and source ports, same IP source and destination, too.
> > >
> > >
> > > So I am presuming it's something to do with my snort.conf file. I've
> > > left most of the options as default, I just changed the policies to linux,
> > > as I am using Backtrack as the Snort IDS
> > >
> > >
> > > Can anyone give me any guidance please?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > >
> > > Emeka
> > >
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