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Re: How does Snort protect itself ?


From: twig les <twigles () yahoo com>
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:34:25 -0700 (PDT)

Not really.  My point was that Snort protects Snort
well, but not the sensor.


--- KD Rajkumar <koderma () hotmail com> wrote:
I think you misunderstood my question. I wasn't
asking if one could use 
Snort to protect Snort.


From: twig les <twigles () yahoo com>
To: "Vinay A. Mahadik" <VAMahadik () lbl gov>, KD
Rajkumar 
<koderma () hotmail com>
CC: snort-users () lists sourceforge net
Subject: Re: [Snort-users] How does Snort protect
itself ?
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 20:42:47 -0700 (PDT)

I wouldn't use snort to protect the sensor.  On top
of
what V. wrote, Snort protects *itself* by running
as a
normal user with no shell, and by not using shoddy
programming (no buffer overflows on bugtraq :).

Using Snort to protect your sensor is like using
the
back of a screwdriver as a hammer.  It would be a
better idea to do the traditional grunt work of
hardening the OS by pruning useless services,
patching
it, and firewalling it.


--- "Vinay A. Mahadik" <VAMahadik () lbl gov> wrote:
KD Rajkumar wrote:

Hi,

How does Snort protect itself against attacks.
If
an attacker is trying
to take down the IDS itself, is Snort capable
of
detecting and thwarting
it ?


Briefly.. although perhaps not optimized for
self-defense, there are
mechanisms like 'memcap' (and consequent
aggressive
pruning, and random
nuking of states), and 'timeout' for
preprocessors
like frag2, stream4.
There's '-z est' defense against stick/snot
attacks.
For evasion
attacks, there are dedicated preprocessors and
preprocessor options, and
some internal source code tweaks like the
1.9.x's
pseudo-random
FLUSH_POINTs in stream4. These are just pointers
and
not a complete
list.. It would be good to have a separate
discussion in the manual
about these..

--
Vinay A. Mahadik
Summer Intern
System & Network Security Group
Lawrence Berkeley National Lab
(510) 495 2618






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