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Announcing LAMN: Legion Against MeaninglesscertificatioNs
From: goertzel_karen at bah.com (Goertzel, Karen [USA])
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:04:01 -0400
The one I've decided to forego is the new ISC(2) CSSLP. Anyone who believes alphabet soup says more about one's qualifications than one's resume and list of publications is not someone I particularly want to spend time convincing of my competence regardless. I am highly sceptical of those who take special training, study, or do anything extraordinary other than "on the job" to prepare for professional certification exams. To me these exams should demonstrate one's actual competence and knowledge gained doing work in the field being tested; they should not merely demonstrate one's abilities to cram for an exam. The reason I have the CISSP is that my job requires it. Besides, for me the level of effort to pass the exam was negligible. Had it not been - i.e., had nearly 10 years specifying and architecting cross domain solutions and high assurance operating systems, and doing risk analyses and COOPs NOT prepared me to pass the exam in just over two hours without any additional study - I really would have felt I had no business calling myself a professional in the field. -- Karen Mercedes Goertzel, CISSP Booz Allen Hamilton 703.698.7454 goertzel_karen at bah.com -----Original Message----- From: sc-l-bounces at securecoding.org on behalf of SC-L Reader Dave Aronson Sent: Thu 19-Mar-09 10:14 To: Secure Coding Subject: Re: [SC-L] Announcing LAMN: Legion Against MeaninglesscertificatioNs Jeremy Epstein <jeremy.j.epstein at gmail.com> wrote:
I'm pleased to announce the creation of LAMN, the Legion Against Meaningless certificatioNs. If you don't have a CISSP, CISM, MCSE, or EIEIO - and you're proud of it - this group is for you.
Heh. I'm going to be giving a speech today in which I mention "PMPs, CISSPs, MCSEs, MDs, JDs, DDSes, and other assorted CAS -- that's Certified Alphabet Soup". -Dave -- Dave Aronson: Have Pun, Will Babble | Work: davearonson.com | /\ ASCII ------------------------------------| Play: davearonson.net | \/ Ribbon "Specialization is for insects." | Life: dare2xl.com | /\ Campaign -Robert A. Heinlein | Wife: nasjleti.net | Email<>Web _______________________________________________ Secure Coding mailing list (SC-L) SC-L at securecoding.org List information, subscriptions, etc - http://krvw.com/mailman/listinfo/sc-l List charter available at - http://www.securecoding.org/list/charter.php SC-L is hosted and moderated by KRvW Associates, LLC (http://www.KRvW.com) as a free, non-commercial service to the software security community. _______________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://krvw.com/pipermail/sc-l/attachments/20090319/f2ad39cd/attachment.html
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- Announcing LAMN: Legion Against Meaningless certificatioNs Jeremy Epstein (Mar 18)
- Announcing LAMN: Legion Against Meaningless certificatioNs SC-L Reader Dave Aronson (Mar 19)
- Announcing LAMN: Legion Against MeaninglesscertificatioNs Goertzel, Karen [USA] (Mar 19)
- Announcing LAMN: Legion Against Meaningless certificatioNs Benjamin Tomhave (Mar 19)
- Announcing LAMN: Legion Against Meaningless certificatioNs Jeremy Epstein (Mar 19)
- Announcing LAMN: Legion Against MeaninglesscertificatioNs Tom Brennan - OWASP (Mar 19)
- Announcing LAMN: Legion Against Meaningless certificatioNs Paco Hope (Mar 19)
- Announcing LAMN: Legion Against Meaningless certificatioNs Joe Teff (Mar 20)
- Announcing LAMN: Legion Against Meaningless certificatioNs Bret Watson (Mar 21)
- Announcing LAMN: Legion Against Meaningless certificatioNs Benjamin Tomhave (Mar 21)
- Announcing LAMN: Legion AgainstMeaningless certificatioNs Jim Manico (Mar 21)
- CSSLP Paco Hope (Mar 23)
- CSSLP Rob Floodeen (Mar 23)
- Announcing LAMN: Legion Against Meaningless certificatioNs Joe Teff (Mar 20)
- Announcing LAMN: Legion Against Meaningless certificatioNs SC-L Reader Dave Aronson (Mar 19)