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FC: Essay tries to unmask anonymous ranter through writing style
From: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 12:13:43 -0500
[This anonymous essay appeared on cypherpunks. It's an interesting example of trying to identify someone based on their writing style, etc. Compare to how "Anonymous" Joe Klein was unmasked a few years back: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/archive/1996/dom/960729/public.html http://www.salon.com/books/review/2000/11/02/foster/ Of course the best way to remain anonymous online, is to translate your posts via Babelfish through a bunch of random languages first. :) --DBM] ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 15:44:07 +0100 (CET) From: Anonymous <nobody () remailer privacy at> A comparison of Frog-Admin, the "Script-Kiddie", Anonymous Trolls and other plagues of the privacy community. ... all one and the same schizophrenic person? Quotes can all be found and confirmed through groups.google.com and lexx.shinn.net Remailer Operators list archive, links have been provided whereever possible. ________________________________________________________________________ TABLE OF CONTENTS ----------------- HISTORY GRAMATICAL/WRITING STYLE SIMILARITIES PREVIOUS QUESTIONABLE/DUBIOUS ACTS BY FROG |-Azerty and Frog Remailers |-Monitoring capabilities |-RProcess |-Thomas Boschloo about the timing of hate spam +-Frog's From: Header MOTIVE SIMILARITIES |-Anonymous Troll about Thomas J. Boschloo and Champerty |-Anonymous Troll about Thomas J. Boschloo |-"The Painful Truth about Orange" to Orange-Admin |-Anonymous Troll about Katherine's Miranda Remailer |-Anonymous Troll about Katherine |-Anonymous Troll (Freud) to Orange-Admin +-Anonymous Troll (Boschloo is a CLOWN) about Thomas J. Boschloo TERMINOLOGICAL SIMILARITIES +-Further connections between all kinds of old and new trolls +-"You are a failure" | |-Anonymous Troll about Katherine | |-Anonymous Troll about Champerty | +-"The Truth about Orange" to Orange-Admin +-Microsoft & Windows Software |-Anonymous Troll to "I Sent Your Saddle Home" +-"The Painful Truth about Orange" to Orange-Admin MESSAGE COMPARISON/ANALYSIS |-Source Remailers |-Message Headers (To: mail2news gateways) +-Writing Style +-Sporadic use of single-space indentation and missing punctuation GRAMMAR/SPELLING +-The "succes(s)ful" gotcha |-Frog-Admin +-Trolls LINE BREAKS |-Frog-Admin +-"The Painful Truth about Orange" THE "SCRIPT-KIDDIE" DEVICIVNESS/DIVERSION/CONFUSION ________________________________________________________________________ HISTORY ------- Observing alt.privacy.anon-server and the remailer-operators list over the last year I have noticed a larger then usual amount of DoS, disinformation, slanderous, spam-style, and scripted attacks occurring in the privacy community. The fact that makes these issue unusual is that there is one constant variable in these matters: Frog-Admin can be linked to start of all these matters. I have carefully studied and analysed the posting habits, writing style, vocabulary, punctuation use/misuse, uncommon/consistent misspelling, line breaks and other "signature" items of Frog-Admin, "Script-Kiddie", and the remops/APAS troll (who has attacked Katherine, Champerty, Orange-Admin, Boschloo and others). I propose to the privacy community that Frog-Admin, "Script-Kiddie", and the troll who has waged war on many other individuals in the community are all the same person. I have gathered enough material and identified so many uncanny and consistent similarities that it is difficult to deny or chalk up to common paranoia. I ask you to draw your own conclusions from the material provided. ________________________________________________________________________ GRAMATICAL/WRITING STYLE SIMILARITIES ------------------------------------- You will notice the following writing style similarities in all the following quotes by different anonymouse people and the Frog-Admin: 1. missing punctuation 2. additional tabs/spaces at the beginning of lines 3. overuse of CAPS 4. use of asterisks (*) to highlight certain words 5. excessive manual line breaks ________________________________________________________________________ PREVIOUS QUESTIONABLE/DUBIOUS ACTS BY FROG ------------------------------------------ Frog-Admin was found to be the admin of both Azerty and Frog remailers. He kept the fact that he was Azerty admin hidden and it was not announced by him for quite some time after both remailers were opened. He utilized this fact to trace "abuse" through chains which included both Azerty and Frog. Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20000213203924.033%40nyarlatheotep.frog.org Quote: -Apparently, "Frog" and "Azerty" got mail-bombed this WE. -It looked like groups of 5* or 10* 400K chunks, -chaining azerty-frog-azerty-frog.... 10 times Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1009d5c8f2f2790aeb6efd4b870b6f7a%40remailer.privacy.at Quote: -I caught an abuser (trivial traffic analysis): - -Azerty received 100 * messages 160 K initially -giving 100 * identical messages 60 K on arrival with 14*gif (batman) -each. -In-between, transparent-remix generated a few hundreds messages each -hop - -jneeley () ccrtc com > azerty > noisebox > frog > tkpa1 () link2000 net -that was the scheme - -here are the headers: incoming and last hop Frog-Admin added monitoring capabilities to Reliable remailer software, and published addresses and posts which he believed were responsible for abuse publicly on http://www.privacyresources.org/frogadmin/Trash/ RProcess himself speaks out against other Frog-Admin actions with Reliable and others. Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20000207072033.31242.qmail%40nym.alias.net A post from Thomas Boschloo about the timing of hate spam and Frog-Admin losing his cable connection: Quote: -Subject: The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth (Was: -Boschloo?) - -I have had it reply to me on some days, and ignore me on others. Also -I am starting to become convinced that the guy calling himself -Script-Kiddie, also post under the nomer 'Frog2' to a lot of -newsgroups where I also post. He is really nice and pleasant in that -mode and eager to learn more about all sorts of things that also draw -my interest. Why am I thinking this? Well, Frog2 (which is a 'default' -monker for the Frog2 remailer, I know) once stated to Frog-Admin that -he had lost his access to an expensive Cable modem account. It also -happens to be so that since then his floods have been even more -pathetic. Going from up to 1500 message a day to at most 65 messages -a day posted over a lot shorter period (a few hours at most). There -are other reasons too. Like the troll first attacking Chaperty before -he moved on to me. And Champerty has a dubious stature in the group -as having never included anything from Frog-Admin in his FAQ (while -mentioning others). So I guess the troll calling himself Script-Kiddie -is also a Frog-Admin lover, I forgot about his precise agenda (which -is dangerous, "You must know your enemy or your enemy will kill you"). - -Well, tata, -Thomas Frog-Admin uses a From: header for all his outgoing mail with the address abuse () rr com - resulting in a massive amount of junk email sent to roadrunner's abuse desk. This fits nicely to the other flooding/silencing tactics of the "other" Trolls and the Script-Kiddie: Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=CTSC9ZVL37183.6072685185%40frog.gilgamesh.org Quote: -Among options: - reopen my firewall and put a template on my mercury/32 - to bounce back all messages to the various addresses I found with Whois - put those abuse desk addresses as my remailer's reply-to - ... - chris () 808multimedia com - derek () premiereit net - hostmaster () twtelecom net - abuse () 808multimedia com - abuse () rr com Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3BD484C1.B7FF41E1%40multiweb.nl Quote: - That is why I will harass roadrunner - until they cancel that [24.160.242.167] account - with all means at hand, - and I suggest all remops do the same ________________________________________________________________________ MOTIVE SIMILARITIES ------------------- Misinformational, false accusation, slanderous, spam style and DoS attacks have occurred to the following parties: Katherine, Champerty, Orange-Admin, Thomas J. Boschloo and others - after public questions and/or criticism of Frog-Admin. The goal of these attacks allegedly to have the parties killfiled, silenced and discredited. Anonymous Troll about Thomas J. Boschloo and Champerty ------------------------------------------------------ Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?th=e38e5ccb87ed2710,6&seekm=3AA79651.45D1F91C%40multiweb.nl Quote: -You are a failure and you hate anybody succesful in whatever domain -Bill_Gates-hater, too: I bet!!! - -When did that start, champerty brat? -When little girl in sandbox said: -"He is too ugly, I won't let him my pail" -How many people did you hate since she preferred that carrot-haired freckle-faced toddler? Anonymous Troll about Thomas J. Boschloo ---------------------------------------- Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=9e9fcf0fbc1956f2baccc58564114e97%40noisebox.remailer.org Quote: -We will know EVERYTHING about disturbed teen's fantasies, then. -Nothing will be spared from us. - -Champerty's fantasy was that some girl would be so infatuated with his body -that she would try to take him away from his computer's keyboard. - -And now, we got that Thomas J Boschloo UNTERMENSCH, -And how he fantasizes to pet a girl: - "Let us merge genepools" -AAARGHHH - -How appealing !!! -Told to a girl whose grandmother was probably instructed to "shut eyes" and -"think of England" (or Holland or whatever), he will probably - at best: be handled a test tube to donate sperm to a bank - probably: be given a nice slap and a large bucket of cold water - why not: tar and feathers - -I prefer recreational sex anyways - -But if Thomas J Boschloo UNTERMENSCH's aim is not to COPULATE but mere -REPRODUCTION -He better prays the God_for_the_retarded that he were a GIRL - PARTHENOGENESIS would let him a chance - -Salut les frustres, mangez du Roquefort "The Painful Truth about Orange" to Orange-Admin ------------------------------------------------ Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=a02ab5f638184d7fa189d0255d79374a%40freedom.gmsociety.org Quote: -The one who refuses to understand that remailing is based on CHAINING. -The one who invented the "orange directive" to rule which borders -packets should respect on Internet. -The one who was a failure on Windows/Reliable and is a failure on -Linux. -The one who claims his box to be secure and is unable to set the -system date. -The one who complains simultaneously being RBLed AND having quota -rejections. -The one who thinks he is at liberty to discard mail when he got his -PMS. -The one who got his brains examined and they found a huge noisy fan -but no processor. -The one who is a liability to the community, not an asset. -The one who competes witg BOSCHLOO on stupidity. - -The infamous ORANGE. Anonymous Troll about Katherine's Miranda Remailer -------------------------------------------------- Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=de1290115df801af96bc20cc52a2ccaa%40anonymous.poster Quote: -But maybe "katherine" will be willing to help modifying the code: -lots of free time since MIRANDA demise -MIRANDA the worst remailer ever Anonymous Troll about Katherine ------------------------------- Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=de23fc69a5864d83f97cf7222d35d711%40mixmaster.shinn.net Quote: -|{sigh} What is happening to this newsgroup? A user of Eelbash has just been -|outed. There is no worse sin for a remailer operator. And instead of -|discussing whether or not Eelbash did the right thing, whether he should put -|"mon" in his capabilities, whether freedom of speech can survive this type -|of behavior.... you folks are discussing the merits of the outed user's Web -|site! - -AGAIN that obsession with "MON" -AGAIN that bicking against a succesful remop -Listen, Katherine: -If not impersonating a woman any more makes you have your PMS twice a -month, -SIGN AGAIN AS "KATHERINE" - -We are tired of your cyclic rant against succesful remailers. -You are sick jealous because your were the failed remop of a failed -remailer -MIRANDA: the worst remailer ever, spamming aam on top - -You never had the guts to run a non-middleman remailer -Your stupid propositions of "hash cash" aimed at making life more difficult -for *every* user -And your never-ending lectures about how others SHOULD do make us sick - -If you *ever* dare running a remailer again, dont forget to put "SF" in cap -string -like "Science Fiction" or "Spammer Friendly" -But dont expect the remailer at the other end to take the heat for posting -the crap you welcome -Your new creation might very well finish its short life in a few blocking -lists - -You support attackers who try to kill remailers by spamming them to death. -Fine: that is your agenda, we know about it -There are quite a few users who have a *legitimate* use of remailers, -and they do not like your attempts to kill healthy remailers Anonymous Troll (Freud) to Orange-Admin --------------------------------------- Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=X5N8TZLY37072.6397337963%40frog.nyarlatheotep.org Quote: -Poor Orange admin is not comfortable with his own body -He feels inadequate towards the other sex. -That gets worse when he has to publicly expose his body. -He has to project his hatred against better-endowed-than-him towards -anybody bigger-than-him, in any domain. - -MY ADVICE -Go to a shrink and solve that nasty self-image problem. -Go to a gym and pump some iron (you might read and learn some things about -computers, Internet, remailers - basics would help) at the same time -Both solutions would give us some well-deserved break: - Script-Kiddie, Boschloo, Champerty, Orange-Admin, that is a bit too much -for just one year Anonymous Troll (Boschloo is a CLOWN) about Thomas J. Boschloo -------------------------------------------------------------- Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?th=1f56622ab98f2998,9&seekm=824DRK1A37008.5082638889%40nuther-planet.net Quote: - Boschloo is a CLOWN - Against Boschloo - Neuter Boschloo - SCREW Boschloo - Stop Boschloo NUTS - Stop Boschloo NONSENSE - Stop Boschloo RAT - Stop Boschloo insanity - Boschloo TOO MUCH - Boschloo is a PLAGUE - -NONSENSE from Boschloo, as usual, - trying to occupy frontstage with his pretense of knowledge - -HISTORY: -That Boschloo bozo is a clown and a troll who has been looming around for nearly a year. -Don't mistake a "regular" (troll) with a knowledgeable person: that self-proclaimed "security expert" is not even a remailer user. In the past, he proved himself unable to check a PGP signature, and got ridicule from every single technical topic he wanted to talk about. -Besides false or inaccurate or misleading technical misinformation, his posts are about his avowed mental illness, or for bashing remops or real freedom fighters: he likes to quarrel with every one, and stir shit. Sometimes, it is even pure delirium (when he misses his pills?) -One of his last actions was to stage a hoax about his own suicide, just to try to grab some sympathy, after he had been exposed as a troll and technically incompetent. -The worst being his teasing of Script-Kiddie until it triggered a new flood on apas. -Of course, he refuses to apologize. -Actually, the level of contempt he shows for remailer users: - they don't give their names, while he does - that can't do anything against him, without giving their names -is in no way different from what is displayed by Pangborn, Burnore and the like - -Ignore him completely, killfile him, respect others' killfiles - -KILLFILE: -To put him in your killfile, put "Author: Boschloo" -That will make disappear both him and people who warn about him -If you want to tell him to buzz off, or warn about him, - use a nickname containing "Boschloo" (Boschloo Hater, Boschloo Sucks,...) - to accomodate such killfile for "regulars", and still warn newbies - -COURAGE: -Boschloo is getting _no_ answer from apas any more. -He has to crosspost to various newsgroups to try to grab some attention. -In a few months, it will be gone. - - Fight Boschloo - Stop Boschloo MADNESS - Stop Boschloo RAT - Stop Boschloo INSANITY - Stop Boschloo NONSENSE - Stop Boschloo NUTS - Boschloo TOO MUCH - Boschloo is a PLAGUE - SCREW Boschloo - Neuter Boschloo - Boschloo is a CLOWN ________________________________________________________________________ TERMINOLOGICAL SIMILARITIES --------------------------- Many ambiguous terms/phrases coined recently by anonymous trolls seem to be familiar acceptable and fully understood by Frog-Admin. Many of these terms and phrases do not make sense or even equate to a definitive insult in plain English, but seem to be well understood by both Frog-Admin and the trolls. Link: http://lexx.shinn.net/pipermail/remops/2001-July/001927.html is an interesting post by Frog-Admin which exemplifies this idea. Further connections between all kinds of old and new trolls ----------------------------------------------------------- 1. "You are a failure" ---------------------- Anonymous Troll about Katherine ------------------------------- Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=de23fc69a5864d83f97cf7222d35d711%40mixmaster.shinn.net Quote: -You are sick jealous because your were the [failed] remop of a [failed] -remailer -MIRANDA: the worst remailer ever, spamming aam on top Anonymous Troll about Champerty ------------------------------- Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?th=e38e5ccb87ed2710,6&seekm=3AA79651.45D1F91C%40multiweb.nl Quote: -You are a [failure] and you hate anybody succesful in whatever domain "The Truth about Orange" to Orange-Admin ---------------------------------------- Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=a02ab5f638184d7fa189d0255d79374a%40freedom.gmsociety.org Quote: -The one who was a [failure] on Windows/Reliable and is a [failure] on Linux. 2. Microsoft & Windows Software ------------------------------ Anonymous Troll to "I Sent Your Saddle Home" -------------------------------------------- Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?th=e38e5ccb87ed2710,6&seekm=3AA79651.45D1F91C%40multiweb.nl Quote: -You spitted at Frog, then you spitted at Eelbash, then you spitted at Austria. -What does it take to get excommunicated by you? - SUCCESS -You are a [failure] and you hate anybody succesful in whatever domain -[Bill_Gates-hater], too: I bet!!! "The Painful Truth about Orange" to Orange-Admin ------------------------------------------------ Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=9HHQUXKI37072.5471990741%40frog.nyarlatheotep.org Quote: ->>They believe to be professionals because they scream ["Micro$hit $ucks"] -... -You proved yourself a [failure] because you were not able to run a software: -Window/Reliable which is used flawlessly by half the remailers. -Being a [failure] on window was not trendy. -So you thought maybe being a [failure] on Linux was more fashionable, and on -a Sparc on top. Isn't you mommy impressed? -And thar nice Ferrari cap you are donning, will you get your driving -licence soon? -So, what are YOU talking about? you were not even able to run properly -Reliable on Windows, -and [you put the guilt on Reliable and Windows], not on your own stupidity. -So, what do you mean: "[Micro$hit $ucks]" or "I am a sucker unable to run -Windows/Reliable" ________________________________________________________________________ MESSAGE COMPARISON/ANALYSIS --------------------------- 1. All messages from both Frog-Admin and the other trolling aliases used are nearly always sent through frog, possibly both injected directly into the frog message pool. 2. A particularly damning item occurs in the headers of these examples messages, that being "To:" field. Note that the To: fields are identical in Frog-Admin and "The Painful Truth about Orange". Not only are they cross-posting through the same addresses in the same order, but they include identical line breaks after "mail2news_nospam () anon lcs mit edu,". Frog-Admin (Public "To:" Header): To: mail2news_nospam () dizum com, mail2news_nospam () anon lcs mit edu, mail2news_nospam () freedom gmsociety org "The Painful Truth about Orange" (Public "To:" Header): To: mail2news_nospam () dizum com, mail2news_nospam () anon lcs mit edu, mail2news_nospam () freedom gmsociety org This data could be interpreted that the same remailer client was being used, but there is no default template in Jack B. Nymble or other remailer clients which contain this particular list of addresses in this order. In other words this is a custom template being used by this individual(s). The remaining headers are identical, as we would expect from a remailer. 3. Another damning item occurs in the writing style itself in which we can see strong and consistent similarities. Sporadic use of single-space indentation and missing punctuation ---------------------------------------------------------------- Frog-Admin: Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=N5PWNSRI37086.5068865741%40frog.nyarlatheotep.org Quote: -FROG's Final death is planned August 1st -I will then - issue revokation key - forward FrogRemailer () bigfoot com and its brothers to bounce "The Painful Truth about Orange": Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=873LDA5K37087.8165277778%40frog.nyarlatheotep.org Quote: -So far, suckers wanted to prohibit: - use of MTA because they might be logs - use of firewalls because they might be logs - border crossing by packets without a passport or the "orange: " directive - use of valid system dates - use of a functionnal brain - use of flags in titles - -Stupidity is bottomless -Apparently, there are 3 competing for the title: - horace@moray, BOSCHLOO and ORANGE As you can see the style is nearly identical and can be found repeatedly in ANY of the messages by Frog-Admin or other trolls. This is a signature item that link Frog-Admin and trolling messages back to well over a year ago. Many of these are massive threads, of the same troll talking and reasserting himself against his target, no outside party ever even enters into the thread, pure loads of slander and misinformation. It can be observed in these posts just to list a few: Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=LZKLFLR837072.6141898148%40frog.nyarlatheotep.org Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?th=ecf848422185b654,29 Messages from the same person (duplicates omitted), with Frog-Admin's writing style: 2, 3, 12, 14, 15, 16 ________________________________________________________________________ GRAMMAR/SPELLING ---------------- Perusing through posts by Frog-Admin and the trolls at http://lexx.shinn.net/pipermail/remops/ it becomes very clear that English is not the first language of either of these posters. Additionally we can see many common mistranslations and other significant and similar grammatical errors by both posters. The "succes(s)ful" gotcha ------------------------- Frog-Admin can't spell "successful", nor can the troll. Frog-Admin: ----------- Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=CEI7DQGS36955.5544907407%40frog.nyarlatheotep.org -If it says "corrupt", it might be.. -It might be your download which was not [succesful] -retry Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=11FA1AA7C8F%40127.0.0.1 -(Tests combining Azerty+Frog were [succesful] up to -10.000 messages / 200.000.000 bytes (MAILIN) Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=9K0AE1B036950.7570138889%40frog.nyarlatheotep.org -May I repeat my thinking on this? -Script-Kiddie tried -flooding -and it was less [succesful] than expected Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=2LBAEMES36912.8013078704%40frog.nyarlatheotep.org -That is why: To be [succesful] Troll: ------ Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=aa007d4998c8faab3c94f7118fae7b24%40melontraffickers.com -You are a failure and you hate anybody [succesful] in whatever domain -Bill_Gates-hater, too: I bet!!! Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=de23fc69a5864d83f97cf7222d35d711%40mixmaster.shinn.net -AGAIN that bicking against a [succesful] remop -Listen, katherine: Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=200103070632.f276WFS31009%40berlin.neuropa.net -YEAH -Any [succesful] remailer should be shut down -We know about your story Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=f8b81635c3d43fbd1f010f892f1b48f1%40melontraffickers.com -Who needs archives? -"Champerty" aka "ziggyb" aka "jungle" aka "I sent your Saddle Home" is always -expressing the same hate for the [succesful] remailer at the moment. Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=babcae60b5a205aba9d14c94f1bc89f5%40paracrypt.com -You wont stop while there are healthy and [succesful] remailers, won't you? Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=b8c6f35a01edd2f3b95b3426d1c3fab0%40anonymous.poster -How *weird* that [succesful] remailers are *systematically* attacked -with that "spying" accusations..... ________________________________________________________________________ LINE BREAKS ----------- All messages by either Frog-Admin or the troll have excessive manual line breaks. Frog-Admin: ----------- Quote: -To: mail2news_nospam () dizum com, mail2news_nospam () anon lcs mit edu, -mail2news_nospam () freedom gmsociety org -Date: 14 Jul 2001 10:09:55 -0000 -From: Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (Frog-Admin) -Subject: Killing FROG -CC: remailer-operators () anon lcs mit edu -Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server - -As announced before, I am killing FROG (FrogRemailer () bigfoot com) -because BigFoot is enforcing a quota -whose final limit will be 25 messages/day. - -I hate the idea of losing mail, and I want FROG to be dead before that happens. -FROG disappeared from all stats (except BRUBLE) and all public keyrings. -Volumes plummeted, but there are still a minimum of 200 mesages/day through FROG - -To hasten its death, I slapped delays on mail through FROG: -mail is now collected and processed only every other day, -to be reduced to twice a week. - -FROG's Final death is planned August 1st -I will then -issue revokation key -forward FrogRemailer () bigfoot com and its brothers to bounce - -FROG2 (FrogRemailer () frogadmin yi org) goes on as usual "The Painful Truth about Orange": --------------------------------- Quote: -To: mail2news_nospam () dizum com, mail2news_nospam () anon lcs mit edu, -mail2news_nospam () freedom gmsociety org -Date: 15 Jul 2001 17:35:48 -0000 -From: Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (The Painful Truth about Orange) -Subject: Re: [QS], [FYI], [STATS], ad nauseam -CC: remailer-operators () anon lcs mit edu -Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server - -On 15 Jul 2001, Frog2 <FrogRemailer () NoReply Invalid com> wrote: ->In article <7o2vktooh57pgmvce37n5i8k5ugithj1se () 4ax com> ->horace () moray com wrote: ->> Idiot wannabe-trendmakers! -> ->Because some peoples knowledge goes beyond turning on a computer. Using ->filters seems to be one basic skill you ->haven't accuired yet, have you? -> ->First think then talk! - -That is the BOSCHLOO-ORANGE way to behave: -They LOVE to give lectures on subjects where they miss the most basic -skills and knowledge. -And because there are so many subjects they are so blatantly ignorant on, -it is only bad luck that they landed on apas and not on -alt-bonsai-cultivation or any sci newsgroup. -The only subject where they might have some insight is -alt.sex.bestiality.hamster.duct-tape. - -So far, suckers wanted to prohibit: -use of MTA because they might be logs -use of firewalls because they might be logs -border crossing by packets without a passport or the "orange: " directive -use of valid system dates -use of a functionnal brain -use of flags in titles -.. - -Stupidity is bottomless -Apparently, there are 3 competing for the title: -horace@moray, BOSCHLOO and ORANGE - -Last year, we got the MARTY character on a par with ZIGGY.B ________________________________________________________________________ THE "SCRIPT-KIDDIE" ------------------- Anyone familiar with remops/apas will know that the "Script-Kiddie" has plagued/flooded many newsgroups with anonymous remailers being his modus operandi, trying to silence posters he didn't like (including Thomas J. Boschloo and K. Pengborn). It is worth mentioning that the "Script-Kiddie" has utilized many French terms and aliases, as well as exhibiting all of the other common Frog-Admin and troll posting tendencies. Breifly, these include: Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=9e9fcf0fbc1956f2baccc58564114e97%40noisebox.remailer.org Quote: -Salut les frustres, mangez du Roquefort Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=2bb67e9fc1fc6439c6a9fee2b721ab9f%40dizum.com Quote: -I got Boschloo -We fell in love with each other. -I feel comfortable here, after all, and I get exactly wahat I want - -Thanks for your welcoming - -Script-Kiddie aka Roquefort aka .... ________________________________________________________________________ DEVICIVNESS/DIVERSION/CONFUSION ------------------------------- Despite all the links established above, we can see a history of Frog-Admin bad-mouthing, down playing, and even accusing others of being the troll/Script-Kiddie For the later, Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=VRCPDMYL36867.0291435185 () frog nyarlatheotep org Since Script-Kiddie had a specific goal (not to annoy, as we expect from a common troll but to silence its targets) it is important to realize how devicive and tactical these manuevers really are, for they give way to understanding motive and from motive we gain our common suspect. The Script-Kiddie even gives a small tutorial on how to killfile boschloo and itself: Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=6e01ec762961dc3ab87d1b151c91a7cf%40anonymous.poster Quote: -KILLFILE: -To put him in your killfile, put "Author: Boschloo" -That will make disappear both him and people who warn about him -If you want to tell him to buzz off, or warn about him, - use a nickname containing "Boschloo" (Boschloo Hater, Boschloo Sucks,...) - to accomodate such killfile for "regulars", and still warn newbies Its also noteworthy that the Script-Kiddie anti-boschloo bot suffers from the same misnomers as Frog-Admin and the troll does: CAPS lock emphasis, excessive line breaks, single-space indentation,... More diversionary tactics to lead suspicion away from Frog-Admin. In this post Frog-Admin actually gives a "short-list" (more improper English, we can assume he means "shit-list") of peoples full names he suspects of being "Script-Kiddie". He has moved on from accusing K. Pangborn to others (more diversion/confusion). Link: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=SF8W8WU236978.9766203704%40frog.nyarlatheotep.org Quote: -Second answer to my post came from "Samuel Hocevar", - news:slrn9c43ld.ioo.sam () zen via ecp fr -"Samuel Hocevar" too belongs to my "short list" of possible "Script-Kiddie" -Actually, I had an argument wirh that "Samuel Hocevar" last Spring: -He is another self-appointed GNU-PGP guru -He boasted that PGP was broken, that it was easy to forge my signature - he created a key "frog-admin" and signed with it - everybody laughed at him - he then pasted my valid signature below a text of his - (like SK did in the "I caught Script-Kiddie red-handed..." hoax) - everybody laughed at him - he then created a key "frog-admin" with same key-ID as mine - 0x3C777CC5, and uploaded it to various public keyrings - everybody laughed at him -Shortly after, he got more ridicule from another unrelated subject - (proper use of future tense in French to emphasize doubt...) -where he wanted to pose as a specialist too -Then, he disappeared from my screens - -Besides "Erwan David" and "Samuel Hocevar", -you might want to know who I consider "possible Script Kiddie" -Easy: look at whom answered to a provocative post by "jhenry" -(jhenry is not my French screen name, jhenry is not even an acquaintance/friend of mine) - news:koilat4atmse58h4emgnd81j2m9nu28qcj () 4ax com -The whole tribe of censors / censors-wannabe / remailer-haters -felt compelled to chorus against him - -It might be a good idea for remops to collect @ and IP from those posts: -The probability that those avowed remailer-haters -send legitimate mail through a remailer is nil -Their only motive would be to deliberately create an incident -to endanger targeted emerging remailer. - -- From then, do what you feel like: -some might just discard that highly-suspicious incoming mail -I make no mystery I want to **CATCH** Script-Kiddie if I can ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. 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