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FC: Why library filters do not violate the 1st Amendment, by K.Bass


From: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:31:33 -0400

[Ken Bass is a DC technology lawyer and former DoJ counsel for intelligence policy who represented Loudoun County (http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,16455,00.html) in its unsuccessful bid to install filtering software. He has also fought to overturn U.S. encryption export rules. --Declan]

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From: "Bass, Kenneth C., III" <kcbass () venable com>
To: "'declan () well com'" <declan () well com>
Cc: "'dburt () n2h2 com'" <dburt () n2h2 com>
Subject: RE: Americans overwhelmingly want Net-filters in schools
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:11:54 -0400

Well, as some may have noticed, my traditional "liberal" views of the First Amendment do not lead me to conclude that filters -- even when employed by government agencies -- violate the First Amendment.

As long as obscenity remains "forbidden fruit" and outside the scope of the First Amendment (something I doubt the USSCt will change in my lifetime) I continue to believe -- as well as litigate) that public institutions can take reasonable steps to prevent access to illegal materials.

With all the problems of filtering technology, it still seems to me the "people" have it right -- public funds need not be spent to facilitate access to prohibited speech. Even the public access doctrine, IMHO, does not mandate a parade permit for an illegal assembly.

[puts on a fire-retardant suit and steps aside]

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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:24:18 -0400
From: Chuck0 <chuck () tao ca>
To: declan () well com
CC: politech () politechbot com, dburt () n2h2 com
Subject: Re: FC: Americans overwhelmingly want Net-filters in schools

And what did the teenagers have to say on this? Ultimately, it is their
free speech rights that are being infringed.

Filters don't work, David, you know that.

Chuck0
www.infoshop.org

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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 09:24:43 -0700
From: lizard <lizard () mrlizard com>
To: declan () well com
Subject: Re: FC: Americans overwhelmingly want Net-filters in schools

> The overwhelming majority of Americans say schools should install filters
> to block students from accessing pornography and hate speech, according to
> a new national survey commissioned by the Digital Media Forum.
>
>
Sure. And when someone invents such filters, we'll talk. Right now, this
statement is euivalent to "The overwhelming majority of Americans want
to have mind-blowing sex with the supermodel/movie star/stud of their
choice whenever they want it, and eat double-bacon cheesburgers and
never gain weight."

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