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FC: California Democrats oppose bill to abolish e-commerce taxes


From: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:45:01 -0500

[Seems to me that a confrontational hearing is an occupational hazard when you agree to speak before a legislature. Besides, if someone from Americans for Tax Reform were testifying in court about tax hikes, a judge would be forced to declare him a hostile witness. :) --Declan]

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From: "Ronald Nehring" <rnehring () atr-dc org>
To: "Declan McCullagh" <declan () well com>
Subject: This wouldn't be legal in court
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 00:42:44 -0800
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Declan:
In court, it would have been called witness badgering. But in the Democrat-contolled California State Senate, it's called a hearing.

Yesterday I testified before the state senate's Revenue and Tax Committee on Sen. Ray Haynes' bill to abolish sales and use taxes for electronic commerce in California. Senate President Pro Tempore John Burton chaired the first part of the hearing. That is, he waited for me to speak for about 90 seconds before he began interrupting, shouting statements disguised as questions, and made it clear that he had little interest in hearing from a group of free market advocates on the need for reforming the sales tax system in California. "The Internet is turning millionaires into billionaires!" Burton shouted as his excuse for opposing the Haynes measure.

Sonia Arrison of the Pacific Research Institute also testified, and got the same 90-second grace period before Burton began interrupting and shouting at HER, this time from his regular seat. For those of you who do not know, Burton is a former Congressman who reportedly was forced to resign his seat due to a substance abuse "issue," only to clean up his act (if you want to call it that), run for state senate, and become its leading tax and spender.

Although the measure was certain to go nowhere, that did not stop our opponents from showing up for the hearing en masse. At least nine lobbyists registered to speak against the bill, including representatives from the California League of Cities, and our "brick and mortar" retailers. Clearly, our opponents are taking this issue very seriously, even in states where we have no shot at moving favorable legislation forward.

The one bright note is that even some of the Democrats on the committee perked up when Sen. Haynes turned to the privacy issue during his closing comments (Burton did not hesitate to interrupt Haynes, a fellow senator, too). Haynes walked the Committee through the Trusted Third Party scheme, grabbing even Burton's attention with the prospect of a government database containing information on all of your purchases. The statist Democrats probably won't be phased by this argument, but the civil libertarians ("we hate the cops" crowd, as described by one) on the Left may be receptive.

-- Ron Nehring, Americans for Tax Reform


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