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RE: University plan


From: "Charlton, Ceri (CSS)" <Ceri.Charlton () capita co uk>
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 12:51:16 +0100

Hi Kalgecin,

Further to Andrew's comments below, as a graduate of Glamorgan's
Computer Security MSc program, I can confirm that the quality of
teaching and choice of subject matter there is excellent. The courses
are structured to give you breadth of subjects early on, so you get a
working knowledge of most facets of security and then allow further
specialization once you've worked out what you're particularly
interested in. The teaching does involve practical exercises with
real-world tools. As someone now working in the industry, I use what I
learnt at Glamorgan on a daily basis. 

Wherever you choose to go, ensure that they have good links with
industry and that focus their syllabus around what employers are asking
for. I have seen people entering the marketplace who have huge gaps in
their skillsets, due to this lack of dialogue between academia (at
certain institutes) and the business world.

Regards,

Ceri


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The real answer to the question is "and what do you want as a career in
the information security space ?". if you are interested in penetration
testing then I would suggest that you look at the University of
Glamorgan and the BSc/MSc in Computer System Security and if you are
interested in Computer Forensics then I would suggest that you look at
the BSc/MSc in Computer Forensics at the University of Glamorgan.

Sent from my iPad

On 18 Sep 2010, at 04:09, "Alexander Chayka" <a.s.chayka () gmail com>
wrote:

My recommendation:

Find a good 4 year undergraduate school, they'll drill you harder.
You'll want to go for Computer Science or similar which should be in
the engineering field. Make sure it is ABET a credited. Make sure they
have a *nix lab for the CS students and they use it for homeworks and
projects in CS courses.

My school was the above and did not teach Security at an undergraduate
level. You had to go for your Masters to do that. I'm sure a good
amount if not all schools are like that. My school did have one or two
undergrad classes in security, but I never got the chance.

I would keep away from the for-profit schools that advertise (eg
DeVry, U of Phoenix, anything online). I've talked to some upcoming
graduates from DeVrys Bachelor program and they don't seem anyplace
near par on their understanding. But I'm probably biased on this (a
google search may help here)

Once you understand the basic and fundamental theories (some people
may label some of these as "the boring stuff"), then the practical
stuff in any situation can be mastered and the more advanced ("fun")
stuff will come easier.


On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:32 AM, kalgecin <kalgecin () gmail com> wrote:
hey guys,
I'm in my final year of high school and I'm planning to go to
university. As all people, I have trouble finding the right one ( or
a
good one ). So I'm asking you people to recommend any nice
universities that teach good computer security, that is more
practical
than theoretical. Please also tell me to which university you
attended
and how was it? and any other general advice

--
Kalgecin
http://code.google.com/p/kalgecin
http://kalgecin.110mb.com
http://kalgecin.110mb.com/forums
http://kalgecin.blogspot.com


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