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RE: TELNET and SMTP


From: "Levenglick, Jeff" <JLevenglick () fhlbatl com>
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 09:07:40 -0400

Thomas,

Why would you close port 25? Silly statement. Why is everybody thinking
that port 25 is unprotected when he got the 'standard' 553:no relay
message? Someone at least turned on a few relay options on the mail
configuration. (which is better then an open relay)

Btw.. Open relay would have been the correct term to use if he could
have sent an email instead of getting the no relay. (assuming that he
forged the from field..ect)

Best thing for him is to go to  www.sendmail.org and read the FAQ's for
relay.

To be honest, I was worried about this statement:

"2)What purpose do you believe that the SMTP 
service provides? Does the SMTP simply recieve!?!? Thank you all,
Zach"

If he is passing himself off to a company as an experienced security
person and he does not know something simple as SMTP then I think he
needs to move on to something else.

-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com]
On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 7:41 PM
To: pen-test () securityfocus com
Cc: Deus, Attonbitus; Greg Mulholland; jim () isatools org; Steve Moffat
Subject: RE: TELNET and SMTP

An unprotected port? You need to be very careful because "port
attackers" and do awful things to ports. That's why we do "port scans"
to look for "ports" we can take advantage of. That's why we have
"hardware" firewalls, because they allow us to "open" and "close"
"ports". 

Let the software guyz worry about any services might be located behind
those "ports" -- remember the "hardware" firewalls will protect our
"ports"!

NOT.

Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
Site: www.isaserver.org
Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA)

 

-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce () securityfocus com 
[mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of wymerzp () sbu edu
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 7:31 AM
To: pen-test () securityfocus com
Subject: TELNET and SMTP

Hello all,

I'm looking at a client's site and they have unprotected 
access to port 25 (i.e. I can telnet to it and issue 
commands). When I attempt to send an email I get this message 
'553 Relaying is not supported'. My question is two-fold: 
1)What could I do with the unprotected SMTP access if I can't 
send mail. 2)What purpose do you believe that the SMTP 
service provides? Does the SMTP simply recieve!?!? Thank you all, Zach

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