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Re: SPAM-LOW: passw0rd trial limit


From: Christopher Schwardt <nookieman () gmx de>
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:22:00 +0000

Hi,

well a lil countermeasure is increase the delay it takes to answer the
login process the more requests are send. But in the end this method got
nearly the same drawbacks, and makes it easier for attackers (they may
try more often than in an 2 hour block).

The ban of IP's was already mentioned, and so was the workaround.

You may show the person who logs in the number of failed logins so he
will notice if someone is trying to brute-force his account. Therefore u
need users who are aware of this, and are willing to pass this
information to an admin or whoever is in charge of this kinda stuff.
Then the attack may even be tracked down, if the brute-force process is
discovered soon.

Chriz


Hey,

Disabling users is a kind of control that many companies use as
countermeasure for brute force attacks.

Can any one tell me, what are the other controls to prevent such kind of
attack?

Mohsin Ahmed

-----Original Message-----
From: ceyhun [mailto:jhun39 () gmail com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 3:40 AM
To: pen-test () lists securityfocus com
Subject: SPAM-LOW: passw0rd trial limit

hi

i am trying to pen test a web site

site has a login page and all the usernames are known
the passw0rd length is fixed and 6 characters long

i think with a brute force attack it wold be easy to login as any user,

but the problem is when a user enters wrong paaw0rd more than five times
he/she can only login for aboout 2 hours later

how this obstacle can be overcomed do you have any idea?

by the way remote server accepts another user login wehther you have 
exceeded trial limit or not
so i think it is not related with the ip filtering


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