Re: Hacker Stories, Certs, vs Projects - Was Re: Technitium MAC Address Changer

["Michal Merta" <michal.merta () gmail com>]

Hi all,

actually, I'm not getting money for penetration testing job, but there
was a discussion in security basics list - how to become a pen tester.

Try to look here:
http://www.networksecurityarchive.org/html/Security-Basics/2006-07/msg00072.html

I think you should  start with other "security jobs" to gain expereince.
Regards, Michal

On 7/31/06, Marc Munk <marc () pungloppen dk> wrote:
> I'm facing the same problem as you do. I'v been looking into difference
> sans certifications because they don't require experience but they do
> give some hands on lab work at the training. Not to mention the
> possibility to take a gold level cert. by writing an assignment. But I
> don't have any security certs or experience in the area.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ankur jindal [mailto:ankurjn113 () hotmail com]
> Sent: 31. juli 2006 05:53
> To: pen-test () securityfocus com
> Subject: Re: Hacker Stories, Certs, vs Projects - Was Re: Technitium MAC
> Address Changer
>
> Hey everyone
> I am a fresh graduate just out of school with no industry experience of
> security, just academic work. I am looking for security work but almost
> all
> the positions in the pen-test area require n years of experience or a
> certification. Unless I start work in the security field and actually
> experience how things work I do not get the prereq experience to deserve
> the
> certification as per most. But again if I get a certification without
> any
> experience then that doesn't help either for others.
>
> What should I gather from this discussion then?
>
> Ankur
> ----------------
> >Not true. Certification can provide those lacking experience to show
> >ability and be an asset to an >organization in that particular field.
> So it
> >can show credibility where no experience exists. People >already do
> this
> >now looking to switch job descriptions, need to learn a specific aspect
> of
> >a job, seek to >enhance current ability, or to improve their
> marketability
> >for new jobs.
>
>
>
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Michal Merta
Network Security Engineer
http://www.misuta.cz

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