RE: Pen Test Contracts

["Richard Feist" <richard () bluesec net>]

Rob,

Have a look at the OSSTMM, www.isecom.org/osstmm . While it doesn't directly
answer yout question it does provide a view of what should be covered, and
thus mentioned in the doc you are asking about

Richard

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert J. Kraus [mailto:rkraus () telcomtex net] 
> Sent: 14 July 2006 02:03
> To: Christine Kronberg
> Cc: pen-test () securityfocus com
> Subject: RE: Pen Test Contracts
>
> Christine,
>
> Thanks for the info! I appreciate your time spent for 
> replying to my post.I found your calculation to be very 
> helpful and located a "Get out of Jail Free" doc on the 
> website you recommended.
>
> I was planning on using a different approval for internal and 
> external, but only slight verbiage changes between them. More 
> or less just the audience is different, was planning on still 
> using one, just slightly different to address the correct 
> audience. Much of the content will be the same.
>
> Thanks,
>  
> Rob Kraus
> Chief Information Officer
> Telcomtex Communications, Inc.
> 6622 Randolph Blvd
> Live Oak, Texas 78233
> office: 210-566-5500 ext. 107
> fax: 210-566-5590
> email: rkraus () telcomtex net
> website: www.telcomtex.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christine Kronberg [mailto:seeker () shalla de]
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 6:11 AM
> To: Robert J. Kraus
> Cc: pen-test () securityfocus com
> Subject: Re: Pen Test Contracts
>
>
>    Hi Rob,
>
> > I am curious if anyone happens to have a few documents that 
> may assist
>
> > me. I am not looking to re-create the wheel and would 
> appreciate any 
> > help.
> >
> > I am looking for a few templates that I can use for (of 
> course I would
>
> > modify them to reflect my organizations):
> >
> > 1.    Internal Approval for penetration testing. This is 
> the type you 
> > would use to gain written approval from your internal management to 
> > perform penetration testing on your own network.
> >
> > 2.    Customer Approval Contract for External Penetration Testing - 
> > This form is used for getting written approval from your 
> customers to 
> > perform penetration testing on their networks. This usually will
> include 
> > the scope and any guidelines for the engagement of the pen-testing 
> > activities.
>
>    Why do you make an distinction between the approval for 
> internal and
>    external (customer side) pen testing? For an internal test 
> management
>    is the customer.
>    For the contract you may take a look at:
>       www.professionalsecuritytesters.com
>
> > 3. Proposal. If anyone has a example of a proposal for costing 
> > information for different services.
>
>    The costs rely entirely on time and effort. A simple portscan is
>    (no pentest and) easily archieved. The verification of the results
>    take some more time (and knowledge), yet this is usually not some-
>    thing expensive.
>
>    In case of penetration tests you can try this kind of rough
> calculation:
>
>    * assumption:      network with 20 clients
>    * assumption: each client offers 10 services
>    =>  that make 200 examinations
>
>    an on:
>    * assumption: each examination takes 15 minutes.
>    * assumption: the working day has 8 hours.
>    => that makes 6,25 days of work.
>    Now use your daily rate to estimate the costs and don't forget the
>    time you need to write and present your report.
>
>    Of course, 15 minutes for an examination is ... not very much,
>    if you do your job properly. So the testing, even with support
>    of automized tools, will not be very deep. And don't forget there
>    is still the time it takes to verify your data.
>    But this little example gives an idea about the costs and why a
>    penetration test can be very, very expensive.
>
>    Have a nice day,
>
>    Christine Kronberg.


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