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RE: Pen Test Contracts
From: "Robert J. Kraus" <rkraus () telcomtex net>
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 09:03:00 -0500
Christine, Thanks for the info! I appreciate your time spent for replying to my post.I found your calculation to be very helpful and located a "Get out of Jail Free" doc on the website you recommended. I was planning on using a different approval for internal and external, but only slight verbiage changes between them. More or less just the audience is different, was planning on still using one, just slightly different to address the correct audience. Much of the content will be the same. Thanks, Rob Kraus Chief Information Officer Telcomtex Communications, Inc. 6622 Randolph Blvd Live Oak, Texas 78233 office: 210-566-5500 ext. 107 fax: 210-566-5590 email: rkraus () telcomtex net website: www.telcomtex.net -----Original Message----- From: Christine Kronberg [mailto:seeker () shalla de] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 6:11 AM To: Robert J. Kraus Cc: pen-test () securityfocus com Subject: Re: Pen Test Contracts Hi Rob,
I am curious if anyone happens to have a few documents that may assist
me. I am not looking to re-create the wheel and would appreciate any help. I am looking for a few templates that I can use for (of course I would
modify them to reflect my organizations): 1. Internal Approval for penetration testing. This is the type you would use to gain written approval from your internal management to perform penetration testing on your own network. 2. Customer Approval Contract for External Penetration Testing - This form is used for getting written approval from your customers to perform penetration testing on their networks. This usually will
include
the scope and any guidelines for the engagement of the pen-testing activities.
Why do you make an distinction between the approval for internal and external (customer side) pen testing? For an internal test management is the customer. For the contract you may take a look at: www.professionalsecuritytesters.com
3. Proposal. If anyone has a example of a proposal for costing information for different services.
The costs rely entirely on time and effort. A simple portscan is (no pentest and) easily archieved. The verification of the results take some more time (and knowledge), yet this is usually not some- thing expensive. In case of penetration tests you can try this kind of rough calculation: * assumption: network with 20 clients * assumption: each client offers 10 services => that make 200 examinations an on: * assumption: each examination takes 15 minutes. * assumption: the working day has 8 hours. => that makes 6,25 days of work. Now use your daily rate to estimate the costs and don't forget the time you need to write and present your report. Of course, 15 minutes for an examination is ... not very much, if you do your job properly. So the testing, even with support of automized tools, will not be very deep. And don't forget there is still the time it takes to verify your data. But this little example gives an idea about the costs and why a penetration test can be very, very expensive. Have a nice day, Christine Kronberg.
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- RE: Pen Test Contracts Robert J. Kraus (Jul 13)
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