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RE: [Fwd: Re: Secure Password Policy?]


From: "dave kleiman" <dave () davekleiman com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:45:29 -0500

You might want to take a look at:

Perfect Passwords: http://www.syngress.com/catalog/?pid=3420
It is an excellent resource for helping to decide a password policy length.

It is quick read, and not that expensive ($17 at Amazon):
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1597490415/qid=1137735625/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs
_1/102-4158278-9985763?n=507846&s=books&v=glance


And the free version of LC5??, maybe we can keep it around for a little
while:
http://www.lcpsoft.com/english/comparison.htm


Dave


     -----Original Message-----
     From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
     [mailto:sbradcpa () pacbell net]
     Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 13:42
     To: pen-test () securityfocus com
     Subject: [Fwd: Re: Secure Password Policy?]



     -------- Original Message --------
     Subject:   Re: Secure Password Policy?
     Date:      Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:41:31 -0800
     From:      Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
     <sbradcpa () pacbell net>
     To:        Sulaiman, Wilmar <wsulaiman () siddharta co id>,
     wsulaiman () siddharta co id
     References:
     <5F63869CFE03124796730178626BF04D02476B95 () IDJKTEXC92 id kwo
rld.kpmg.com>



     Your password policy should not be 6.. .but as long as
     deemed appropriate for the risk of the device you are protecting.

     The Great Debates: Pass Phrases vs. Passwords. Part 2 of 3:
     http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/secnews/articles/
     itproviewpoint100504.mspx
     The Great Debates: Pass Phrases vs. Passwords. Part 1 of 3:
     http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/secnews/articles/
     itproviewpoint091004.mspx
     The Great Debates: Pass Phrases vs. Passwords. Part 3 of 3
     -- TechNet Column - Security Management - December 2004:
     http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/columns/secmgmt/
     sm1204.mspx

     If lmhashes are enabled in a firm, a 6 character password
     is trivial to break/sniff with LC5 [well until Symantec
     sunsets it anyway....]

     Protecting your Windows Network [Johansson/Riley] has an
     excellent chapter on passwords.
     http://www.protectyourwindowsnetwork.com/default.htm


     Sulaiman, Wilmar wrote:

     >Dear all,
     >
     >I noticed that "best practice" for Minimum password
     length policy is
     >either 6 or 8 characters. I guess SANS institute considered a weak
     >password if it is less than 8 characters.
     >
     >I would like to know where they derived the number (6 and
     8 characters).
     >Is there any documentation to backup it up why the best
     practice for
     >minimum password length is set to 6?
     >
     >Wilmar Sulaiman
     >Risk Advisory Services
     >KPMG Siddharta Siddharta & Widjaja
     >32nd Floor, GKBI Building
     >28, Jl. Jend. Sudirman
     >Jakarta 10210, Indonesia
     >J : +62 (0) 21 574 2333
     >Fax : +62 (0) 21 574 1777
     >




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