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RE: Rainbow Tables


From: "Tony Stark" <stark192 () hotmail com>
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 08:26:42 -0500


Hello Jeff,

Exactly what I am shooting for, that is what I am trying to do but finding the pieces are sometimes difficult, thus my e-mail, since it looks like LC5 won’t be around any longer I don’t see many (easy to find) pre-computed tables that work with LC5. But it looks like I came to the right place to ask!

Once I get this project completed I am going to lay out a plan, baselines, etc.. using the open source software so management knows how much quicker we can get this work completed.

Thx,

Tony



From: Flory Jeffrey D Ctr 59 MDSS/MSISI <Jeffrey.Flory2.ctr () lackland af mil>
To: "T.Dudek" <duderik () gmail com>, ROB DIXON <RDIXON () workforcewv org>
CC: stark192 () hotmail com, pen-test () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Rainbow Tables
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 13:22:21 -0600

I have many tools within my aresenal that I maintain in order for me to do
my daily tasks and duties protecting my network.  I will test any tool that
I think I can benefit from, once tested, I will brief the powers that be,
and proceed to utilize my new found toy.

I have downloaded and updated my LC5 so many times using various
dictionaries, hashes, etc in order to keep the personnel where I work in
compliance with all my directive policies.

Jeff
Gate Keeper

-----Original Message-----
From: T.Dudek [mailto:duderik () gmail com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 8:34 AM
To: ROB DIXON
Cc: stark192 () hotmail com; pen-test () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: Rainbow Tables


One word: "pirated software".
ok, so it's two words ;-)

I've seen enough cases where the evildoers were using lophtcrack or the
various commercial software/hardware keystroke loggers that you can buy.
Most of the time it's pirated stuff, but why not use the best you can
get/steal when you're a criminal? I'd say the "others" should be informed of
both risks, and need to be reminded that "most likely" does not really mean
anything. I wouldn't step on a plane that would "most likely" not crash..


On 2/7/06, ROB DIXON <RDIXON () workforcewv org> wrote:
> Hey Tony,
>
>    The "others" should be informed that the malicious attacker is most
> likely to NOT use "commercial" products.
>
> And that for a true benchmark, maybe use the products that a malicious
> attacker would use. Most of which will probably be open source or free
> at the least. That is assuming that they are not writing their own
> software. ;) I guess I'm asking, how do you justify "not" using free
> products?
>
> You can buy pre-computated rainbow tables, but there are different
> rainbowtables for different types of hashes. Example: ntlm, ntlmv2,
> sha1 , md5, etc.

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