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RE: Converged Network Assessment - VoIP Security


From: Bob Radvanovsky <rsradvan () unixworks net>
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 13:54:24 -0600

Since the gent hasn't specified, I did some digging and found this out.

IP3's announcement from their web site:
http://www.ip3seminars.com/conf.htm

The VoIP Conference 2006:
http://www.voip-wifi.net/

Call us:   (800)473-5181 
EMail us:   info () voip-wifi net

Send us a letter or visit us: 
 
IIT/IP3 VoIP-Wireless Conference 
1320 N. Michigan Ave. 
Suite 6 
Saginaw, MI 48602 
 


VoIP Conference 2006 participants requirements:
http://www.voip-wifi.net/docs/Prospectus.pdf

About the speakers who will be present at the conference:
http://www.voip-wifi.net/speakers.php

Thought Leaders from Academia & Industry

 
 
Ken Kousky
IP3 Seminars, CEO


Ken Kousky is President and CEO of IP3, Inc., an information security consulting firm, and is currently serving on the 
board of OpenUmbrella.org, a nonprofit organization addressing market awareness and understanding of open source 
technologies. He is also on the advisory boards of several private IT companies. Previously, Ken served as CEO of Wave 
Technologies, a NASDAQ (WAVT) company and as president of Novell's subsidiary NetWare Centers International until 1989. 
As an educator, Ken has taught in both the Business School and the School of Engineering at the University of 
Pennsylvania and Washington University.


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Carol Davids
Professor, IIT
CPD Network Security Technologies
"Protocol & Standards"


Carol Davids has worked in the telecommunications industry for over thirty years. After a twenty-two year career with 
an RBOC where she was responsible for projects in a wide range of disciplines including packet-switched data networks 
and gateways to the Interexchange carriers, she has spent the last ten years in the vendor community developing and 
testing products and standards for providing telephone service over broadband networks. As the Alva C. Todd Professor 
at Illinois Institute of Technology's Center for Professional Development, Professor Davids created the VoIP 
curriculum, designing and building the laboratory which is at its core.


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Roger Farnsworth
Sr. Systems Marketing Manager
IP Communications Security 
rfarnswo () cisco com



Roger Farnsworth is an industry expert in areas of information security and IP telephony. In his current role he helps 
the business community understand the intersection of these key technologies. In more than ten years with Cisco, Roger 
Farnsworth has held several key marketing roles including Director of Voice Product and Technology Marketing, Director 
of the Service Provider Solutions Marketing team, Director of Marketing of the Optical Networking Group, and leadership 
of the Cisco Security Product Marketing team. 


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Claudia Gunter
President/CEO
Gunter Intelligence, Inc.


Over 20 years of Business Due Diligence, Intellectual Property Investigations, Telephony Research and Development, and 
Business and Finance Management in the private and public sector serving in various management roles and as a Business 
Consultant. Her creative, bold go-to-market strategies, combined with an exceptional portfolio of versatile business 
partnerships, fostered her innovative and fearless desire to fine-tune her love for creating cutting-edge, 
commications-technology and applications for investigative and enforcement services.


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Carl Kettler
Senior System Engineer
Spirent Communications



Carl Kettler has over 20 years experience in data communications and networking, including experience as an application 
developer, network administrator, network architect and instructor. Carl Kettler has worked for enterprise 
organizations, with a particular focus on the financial industry as well as for IT consulting organizations and IT 
vendors including Bay Networks, Sun Microsystems and Micromuse. In his current role, Carl Kettler provides technical 
solutions for data network testing. 


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John DiGiovanni
Director of Marketing
Xirrus 


John DiGiovanni is the Director of Marketing for Xirrus, Inc., the developers of the next generation in enterprise 
Wi-Fi architectures - the Wireless LAN Array. In this role, DiGiovanni brings over 12-years of high-tech marketing 
experience and is responsible for all facets within the Company's marketing department including product strategy, 
global product marketing, corporate communications and public relations. Prior to joining Xirrus, Inc. in January of 
2004, he was Director of Marketing at Nomadix, Inc., a leading supplier of Public-access solutions. While at Nomadix, 
he was instrumental in expanding the company's brand recognition and mindshare in the Wi-Fi industry. During this time, 
Nomadix' footprint grew to over 10,000 points of presence throughout the world resulting in the company's 4th place 
ranking on Deloitte & Touche's Technology Fast 50, a listing of the Los Angeles' fastest growing technology companies.

 

 

 
 Jesse Frankel
Director, Systems Engineering
AirMagnet
"Wireless LAN Security"


Jesse Frankel has been working in various areas of wireless LAN technology and applications for over 10 years. 
Currently he is Director, Systems Engineering for AirMagnet, the award-winning provider of wireless LAN management and 
monitoring tools. He is responsible for pre-sales technical support and system architecture for the Eastern US. Among 
his past positions, he was VP Systems Technology at Wayport, provider of broadband Internet access services for 
business travelers. His group was responsible for the design an implementation of 802.11b (Wi-Fi) networks in major US 
airports and hotels. At Telxon (acquired by Symbol Technologies in 2000), Jesse held various management and R&D 
positions for this designer and manufacturer of wireless mobile application systems and devices. As VP strategic 
Technology Consulting, he drove formulation of technical sales strategies and WLAN system architectures for major 
global customers, such as Wal-Mart Stores, Ford, GM, and KLM Airlines.


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Christian Stegh
IP Telephony Practice Leader, North America
Avaya
"Best Practices and Real World Deployment of VoIP Security"


Christian Stegh is the IP Telephony Practice Leader for Avaya's North American region. His experiences include 
deploying and maintaining IP networks for an enterprise IT staff, designing converged networks, and integrating Avaya 
IP Telephony solutions into hundreds of client networks. His current responsibilities include providing Avaya's product 
developers with requirements, direction, and input from Avaya clients. He sits on Avaya's Security Steering Committee, 
multiple product decision teams, and speaks regularly at IEEE and industry events.


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Shawn Sweeney
Director, Technical Marketing
Siemens



Shawn Sweeney brings over 23-years of technical experience in the data communications industry to Siemens. He is 
responsible for the strategic positioning and promotion of the company's suite of WLAN products. Previously, Shawn was 
with Chantry Networks, a WLAN start-up company that was acquired by Siemens in January 2005. He has a long history in 
the networking industry with management positions at Legra Systems, Allegro Networks, RiverDelta Networks (later 
acquired by Motorola), Packet Engines and Bay Networks. He began his career with a 14-year stint at Motorola. Shawn 
graduated Summa Cum Laude from Roger Williams University in Bristol, RI and is a Certified Information Systems Security 
Professional (CISSP).


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Kenneth Dort
Partner
Gordon & Glickson LLC



Kenneth Dort's practice focuses on information technology and intellectual property law issues, including software 
development and licensing, systems development and integration, trade secret protection, and copyright/trademark 
licensing and protection. He is an experienced litigator who has handled cases at the trial and appellate levels 
throughout the United States in the above areas and others, such as copyright and trademark infringement, information 
systems development and implementation failures, trade secret protection, and related areas of complex commercial 
litigation. He also advises clients on general corporate issues, business strategies and related areas of information 
technology law. Mr. Dort represents national and regional businesses throughout the United States.


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Chris McGugan
Sr. Director, Product Marketing
Symbol Technologies



Chris McGugan is an industry expert in the areas of Ethernet, Wireless, and Layer 3 technologies with 15 years of 
experience in developing and marketing products for the networking industry. He is responsible for the ongoing product 
development strategy, direction, and marketing for Symbol’s wireless portfolio. Prior to joining Symbol, Chris held key 
leadership roles in research, product marketing, and technical marketing with Cisco Systems focused on LAN switching, 
core routing, and broadband services. He has been active in many standards bodies and industry consortia driving the 
advancement of network technology.

 
 Margaret Grayson
President
AEP Networks
"Secure Wireless Application: Myth or Reality?"


Margaret E. Grayson is the President of AEP Government Solutions Group and Executive Vice President of AEP Networks, a 
specialist in providing secure networking, application access, and information sharing solutions, and a pioneer in the 
development of Internet cyber security protection using application layer SSL VPN technology. AEP offers a suite of 
enterprise class software products and hardware appliances that provide a complete virtual private network solution for 
AEP’s customers. Fortune 1000 corporations and sensitive government agencies worldwide use AEP’s innovative technology 
for both wired and wireless integrated authentication, encryption and access control.


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Shane Cleckler
Manager of Systems Engineering 
Ingate Systems
"Firewalls and VLANS - Creating and Managing a Segmented Network"


Shane Cleckler joined Ingate Systems after a six-year tenure at WorldCom, where he rose through the telecommunications 
engineering ranks. At WorldCom, Cleckler’s main responsibilities revolved around the execution of product evaluation 
and system integration testing of SIP-capable firewalls for use in next generation VoIP networks. Before WorldCom, 
Cleckler held the position of bench technician and quality assurance monitor at Universal Computer Systems where he was 
responsible for system to component level fault isolation testing and restoration. In his role at Ingate, Cleckler 
supports Ingate’s US customers before and after purchase. He has extensive experience with security technology, system 
integration, product support and customer service. He holds a bachelor of science in electrical engineering from Texas 
A&M University.



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Andrew Graydon
VP Technology
BorderWare



Andrew Graydon is responsible for leading the
technology innovations at BorderWare, ensuring our
position as a leader in the messaging security field.
Bringing his technical expertise and years of working
worldwide with customers and technical communities, his vision, energy and enthusiasm drive BorderWare products to 
being the best-of-breed in messaging security. Prior to joining BorderWare, Andrew was the V.P. Customer Engineering at 
Wysdom, a privately held company which pioneered the Software Delivery Platform for wireless devices, allowing wireless 
telcos to enable their internal infrastructure for secure delivery of functionality to external developers. In this 
role he helped to internally define the technology and concepts while working with the customers and the technical 
community. In his previous position as Director, Development with Origins Software Company, a startup in Boston bought 
by Wysdom, he architected the product and led the development team for Active Blueprints, a fourth generation 
development environment for generating N-tiered application code for mobile devices from graphical design flow 
diagrams. Andrew holds a B.Sc(Hons) from Dublin City University, Ireland, in Applied Physics with specializations in 
Computational and Mathematical Physics.


 


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Craig Forbes
Vice President, Strategic Initiatives
Net.com


As vice president of strategic initiatives, Craig Forbes drives new business and sales opportunities, partnerships, 
alliances and/or joint ventures consistent with the company's strategic direction. Forbes leads the company in driving 
initiatives of the Broadband Services Forum, an organization formed by the merger of the Broadband Content Delivery 
Forum and the Service Creation Community. He is vice chairman of the BSF and is a director of ATIS, the Alliance for 
Telecommunications Industry Solutions. 


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Gerald M. Hoffman
President
The Gerald Hoffman Company LLC



Gerald Hoffman is a consultant, an educator, and an author. His field of expertise is the management of information 
technology. He has done pioneering work in helping organizations get value from their information technology 
investments, in identifying and mapping technology trends and their effects on organizations, and in developing 
business strategies to exploit these trends. He is co-chairman of the Committee on Corporate Governance of a medium 
sized health care system. Most recently he has investigated the causes of IT project failures and developed a 
methodology called Meta Planning to help insure IT project success. He is an adjunct professor at Illinois Institute of 
Technology, and has lectured in executive education programs in both corporate and academic settings.


 
 


Bob Radvanovsky, CISM, CIFI, REM, CIPS
"knowledge squared is information shared"
rsradvan (at) unixworks.net | infracritical.com | ehealthgrid.com
(630) 673-7740 | (412) 774-0373 (fax) 


----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Teicher [mailto:mht3 () earthlink net]
To: Ken Kousky [mailto:kkousky () ip3inc com], 'Giancarlo Paolillo' [mailto:gpaolillo () earthlink net], 'Bob 
Radvanovsky' [mailto:rsradvan () unixworks net], pen-test () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Converged Network Assessment - VoIP Security



What are the speaker qualifications your conference is looking for?
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Kousky <kkousky () ip3inc com>
Sent: Feb 7, 2006 9:48 AM
To: 'Giancarlo Paolillo' <gpaolillo () earthlink net>, 'Bob Radvanovsky'
<rsradvan () unixworks net>, joseph () cibir net, pen-test () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Converged Network Assessment - VoIP Security 

We recently released a call for speakers and a call for sponsors for the
second annual VoIP Security Conference at Illinois Institute of Technology
this May. If anyone on this list is interested in presenting or simply
attending let me know and we'll send info

regards 

Ken Kousky
IP3 www.ip3security.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: Giancarlo Paolillo [mailto:gpaolillo () earthlink net] 
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 8:58 PM
To: 'Ken Kousky'; 'Bob Radvanovsky'; joseph () cibir net;
pen-test () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Converged Network Assessment

Ken, all of your points are quite true..

I can additionally tell you from experience that none of the major
firewall companies will actually "certify" DPI on VoIP.
Pin holes for both ports (5060 and 5061, UDP) is not even enough since
some  companies are changing to bypass well known ports as they may be
getting blocked by ISPs.
Solutions from Cisco or even Avaya's VoIP PBX solution will fail if DPI
is turned on.  For example, on a netscreen, you have to turn on "Ignore
Type" just to allow that traffic to get through...  not really more
effective than a simple ACL on your border router...

Then you have to worry about the actual devices and application!
We found in some cases that some of the third party MTA vendors would
begin retransmitting SIP messages several times per second if it failed
the 1st time... imagine what that will do to your firewalls when your
normal traffic may be 100K sessions on a 500k session fwll....  all of a
sudden you have a DOS scenario which is due to non-standard of
device/protocol/error management.

It gets "better" from there....

Giancarlo
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Kousky [mailto:kkousky () ip3inc com] 
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 9:07 AM
To: 'Bob Radvanovsky'; joseph () cibir net; pen-test () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Converged Network Assessment

I think one of the additional implications here is the realization that
VoIP
and multi-media will introduce new issues to the security community and
should be factored into risk assessments. Pen tests should be adjusted
accordingly.

Several simple observations  on the convergence impact:

1) first, convergence is going to have a lot to do with integrating VoIP
-
here we should note that general managers are traditionally more
concerned
about voice privacy than email privacy (while most data folks know
there's a
lot of critical information in email, mgmt cares more about
confidentiality
on their voice communications) - this is likely to lead to wide-spread
encryption of voice traffic which means it's an ideal convert channel
since
filters can't inspect encrypted data flows so look for malicious use of
encrypted UDP packets
2) VoIP requires two ports (each is unidirectional) for conversations -
some
firewalls or perimeter defenses talk about pin holes being opened for
voice;
don't you love it - a hole in the perimeter but it's only a pin prick
2) acceptable, or functional latency is very different for voice and
live
video than for email or browsing; this means that many exploits that
might
cause a delay can actually produce an outage in the converged network
3) power dependency is an important issue since the phone grid
traditionally
carried it's own power and that's not easy to do with VoIP
4) location awareness is an issue as we see in the FCC battle over E911
for
VoIP
5) spoofing of caller ID is made quite trivial in VoIP
6) Convergence also commonly includes wireless and new client form
factors
like cell phones and hybrid PDAs

These are not all direct issues for a pen test but risk assessment and
planning should address these and far more.

Each new technology we deploy opens up new vulnerabilities and it's our
jobs
to be in front of these.

Convergence is far more than market hype - it's going to bring lots of
new
vulnerabilities and will require new, enhanced defenses.

And, as I've said to vendors for 30 years "it's got to be taught before
it
will be bought" so it's got to start with education.


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Radvanovsky [mailto:rsradvan () unixworks net] 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 3:12 PM
To: joseph () cibir net; pen-test () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: Converged Network Assessment

Actually, it could go either way.  The latest thing within the IT and
security industries is "standardization".  For the security industries,
this
means converging physical, cyber and policy management security
together.
For the IT industries, this means converging telephone (VoIP), video,
and
networking together.

This makes sense that what they're offering is a complete suite of
networking assessments for telephony, video and network (data).  They're
taking advantage of the "convergence movement" lately, and utilizing it
as a
method of a one-stop-shopping for assessing ALL technologies under ONE
quote.

Makes sense, doesn't it?

Bob Radvanovsky, CISM, CIFI, REM, CIPS
"knowledge squared is information shared"
rsradvan (at) unixworks.net | infracritical.com | ehealthgrid.com
(630) 673-7740 | (412) 774-0373 (fax) 

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----- Original Message -----
From: joseph () cibir net
To: pen-test () securityfocus com
Subject: Converged Network Assessment


I am newbie in the field of security, and stumbled across a security
company
advertising that they conduct Converged Network Assessments.
As they describe the assessment focuses on both the voice and the data
network, in order to expose any new security holes created by a
converged
network.
 
.The assessment covers: 
-    External Security Assessment 
-    Internal Security Assessment 
-    PBX Assessment 
-    Adjunct Assessment 
-    Wireless Assessment 
-    Bluetooth Assessment 
-    Rogue Modem Assessment 
-    IDS Assessment 
-    SAN's Assessment 
-    VoIP Assessment 
-    Penetration testing 

So can someone provide me a honest answer to what a Converged Network
Assessment is, it sounds like a lot of marketing speak.

thx



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