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FW: TCP/IP skills
From: drbitbucket () comcast net
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 17:48:51 +0000
I couldn't agree more. Using the tools is one thing. Knowing how they work is entirely another. Having those core skills not only allows you to dig down, deep, and understand what really is happening, but it also allows you to choose which tools do a good job and improve upon them or find other tools if they don't give you what you want. Of course, knowing what you want is another of those skills that comes from a greater understanding of security as it applies to network traffic as well as operating system/service stimulus and responses. Acquiring those skills don't come over night either, it takes a lot of work and time. It is tempting to many to simply use the tools without getting to know the fundamentals. Jon Repaci, GCIA, CISSP -----Original Message----- From: Don Parker [mailto:dparker () rigelksecurity com] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 7:21 PM To: pen-test () securityfocus com; vuln-dev () securityfocus com Subject: TCP/IP skills Hello all, I just wanted to comment on what I see as a rather alarming trend in the security industry today. More and more many are becoming reliant upon tools to do their job whilst they ignore core components of their skillset. Specifically in this case an in-depth knowledge of TCP/IP. Knowing TCP/IP at a granular level in my opinion is very much a core skill that must be attained by anyone who wishes to have a successful career in the network security industry today. One cannot become adept by simply using tools, and never knowing how to interpret the output by verifying the packets themselves. It constantly amazes me when I teach a TCP/IP Analysis course that people who are presently in the industy do not know of such basic TCP/IP concepts as the 3 way handshake and how ICMP works. That or being able to wholly dissect a packet and explain the relationships between various metrics. I would be curious to hear of your opinions on this? Cheers, Don ------------------------------------------- Don Parker, GCIA Intrusion Detection Specialist Rigel Kent Security & Advisory Services Inc www.rigelksecurity.com ph :613.233.HACK fax:613.233.1788 toll: 1-877-777-H8CK --------------------------------------------
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- Re: TCP/IP skills Nigel Stepp (Jul 08)
- Re: TCP/IP skills Nelson Santos (Jul 08)
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- Re: TCP/IP skills R. DuFresne (Jul 13)
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- re: TCP/IP skills Scott Schappert 6270, QA (Jul 08)
- Re: TCP/IP skills M. D. (Jul 09)
- RE: TCP/IP skills Vaccare, Anthony (Jul 13)
- RE: TCP/IP skills Strand, John (Jul 13)
- RE: TCP/IP skills Eric McCarty (Jul 13)
- Re: TCP/IP skills drbitbucket (Jul 13)
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