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Re: Ethical Hacking Training


From: Stormwalker <bruen () coldrain net>
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 08:20:20 -0500 (EST)


Hi James, et al.
  
  The skills and the methods for building a building and taking a building
  down are indeed different, one goes up, the other goes down. However,
  when taking down a building, the knowledge and expertise required to
  do it correctly includes that of how to put it up. The knowledge of
  it comes down is important when putting it up.

  One example is the imploding of a building to make it fall only on its 
  footprint which requires the understanding of how the support structure 
  was  engineered. Otherwise a random explosion would send the building 
  pieces all over the place.  

  On the other end of the spectrum is using the knowledge gained after an
  earthquake (or other natural disaster) to improve the next building so 
  that it will be able to withstand the next earthquake.

  "Know your enemy" is a very ancient principle in warfare that any 
  successful military operative knows and understands. Nothing, including
  ignorance, can ever replace knowledge, expertise, experience, or skill.  
  Keeping people ignorant and misinformed is a strategy of social control.

                       cheers, bob

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Meritt James wrote:
Here we go again.  I believe that those skills necessary to build a
building are different than those to demolish a building.  There are
construction engineers and there are demolition experts.  Different
things.  And the skills to fix a car engine are not those necessary to
vandalize one.  "Know your enemy" is nice, "know your job" is, in my
opinion, better.


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