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RE: Cisco LEAP
From: "Rob Shein" <shoten () starpower net>
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 23:58:22 -0500
Regarding questions 1 and 2: I'm not hugely familiar with the problem that LEAP has, but looking at this challenge from a logistical standpoint, I would say that you'd be far better off with a database containing the dictionary than a flat file, for performance reasons. I could imagine scenarios where you get to be several gig into creating the file, only to have latency on writing to the drive (for any number of reasons) cause the process to blow up. On the flip side, I could see latency in reads causing a similar problem during the brute-forcing process. Storing the data in a simple database structure on a separate machine from that which generates/utilizes the hashes would give you better reliability to avoid either problem and better recoverability should anything akin to it occur anyways. <snip>
Take for example a 6 character password made of lowercase letters and numbers. 36^6 works out to about 2.2 billion possibilities. Your dictionary or 2.2B rc4 hashes would take up roughly 40GB. I guess the plain text that the hash was calculated from would be in there too, so it would be a little larger, but suffice it to say that it would fit on a fairly typical hard drive. So, I'm wondering several things. Consider typical newer Intel hardware. 1) what would it take time-wise to create the dictionary? 2) how long would it take to cycle through 40 gigs of hashes to find the matches? 3) how many matches on the last two bytes of the hash are there likely to be? Thanks in advance for any help in deciding how big of an issue this really is! Michael __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------- Network with over 10,000 of the brightest minds in information security at the largest, most highly-anticipated industry event of the year. Don't miss RSA Conference 2004! Choose from over 200 class sessions and see demos from more than 250 industry vendors. If your job touches security, you need to be here. Learn more or register at http://www.securityfocus.com/sponsor/RSA_pen-> test_031023 and use priority code SF4. -------------------------------------------------------------- --------------
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