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Re: Emulating a wireless access point


From: David Ford <david () eRiskSecurity com>
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 18:21:37 -0400

This is perfectly true with the caveat that for every harmonic that you step away from the prime, the power of the transmission drops proportionately. This is all considering there is no harmonic filtering, also known as a bandpass filter.

Here is where you truely get what you pay for. Inexpensive equipment tends to skim on features such as noise suppression and filtering. Such manufacturers don't care very much if they are splattering noise across the spectrum.

David

bparis () sorrentolactalis com wrote:

        You are correct Meredith.

        I live near a cell tower (100m away) and can clearly hear cell
conversations on my scanner at the 1st lower harmonic, app 450-460Mhz.

        Getting back the the original question, cordless 2.4Ghz phones are
notorious for creating interference with other devices using the same freq
band. I recommend not operating 2.4Ghz phones in a wireless environment.

William S. Paris
Telecommunication/Network Analyst
Sorrento Lactalis Inc.
bparis () sorrentolactalis com


        Actually, it probably has to do w/ the frequency / harmonic
resonance of
the phone interfearing w/the AP ... not the proximity. Even if the phone
operates on a different frequency, it can interfere w/ the AP via harmonic
resonance.
        Harmonic Resonance occurs when one of the frequencies is a multiple
of the
other. Say your AP operates at 2 hz ( for simplicity sake) and your phone
operates at 4 hz, then every other cycle of the phones frequency will be in
phase w/ the access points.

ASCII Diagra:
|                  x -- sine peak                 As you can see, the sine
waves are prefectly
|      |   |   |   |                Phone         in-phase at 2 and 4 w/
respect to the phone.
|     | | | | | | | |
|        |   |   |   |
|_________________________________ T = 1 sec
|
|                      x -- sine peak
|          |       |
|     ....| |.....| |.               Access Point
|             | |
|              |
__________________________________ T = 1 sec

        Are there any Ham operators out there that can confirm or deny this?

-- Meredith Shaebanyan

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