Re: [PEN-TEST] FW: [PEN-TEST] Forensic analisys and related train ing

[Heather Field <Heather.Field () CTP COM>]

I thought the Verisign class was worthy, lots of state-of-the-art tools and
tips and resources that I use today.  I had Taylor Banks or Tyler Banks,
can't remember, great teacher.

-----Original Message-----
From: Oliver Petruzel [mailto:oliverpetruzel () EMAIL COM]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 12:39 PM
To: PEN-TEST () SECURITYFOCUS COM
Subject: Re: [PEN-TEST] FW: [PEN-TEST] Forensic analisys and related
training


Christopher wrote:
>  If you want to spend some money and actually learn something useful,
look
> elsewhere.


Ok, with that being said, we reach a point without direction...
Where do we go from here?...

Besides internal options within one's own company, who and where are the
mid to sr level hacking classes?

Both Foundstone, Inc., and SANS offer nice intro (read: script-kiddie)
courses, but as observed, they do nothing for anyone who has been in
pentesting for more than 3 months...  (which is what i estimate to be
the time it takes an NT/Unix admin to learn to be an effective "script
kiddie" OJT).

So for now, we can each go and get our wonderful certificates of
completion for our employee file and office wall, but once that is
completed, we've gained little to no new skills, and we have no level
200 to 500 courses to attend...

hmm... solutions?  does anyone here know of or sponsor a course
themselves that goes beyond "click here to crash IIS..." intro courses?

./Oliver P.
PenTester...
Booz-Allen $ Hamilton


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