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Re: VLANs in VM
From: "Chuck Sanderson" <ChuckSa () jeld-wen com>
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:53:02 -0700
Seems like logically this can be done using a vyatta guest OS; not sure which NICS will support the dot1q tagging or which will be supported by the guest? Here's an interesting link from someone trying a similar setup http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=17588 Personally I'd go with the physical using the traditional setup as it would be pretty small just a router and switch or just a L3 switch , -----Original Message----- From: pauldotcom-bounces () mail pauldotcom com [mailto:pauldotcom-bounces () mail pauldotcom com] On Behalf Of Robin Wood Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 7:51 AM To: PaulDotCom Security Weekly Mailing List Subject: Re: [Pauldotcom] VLANs in VM On 17 September 2010 08:09, Nils <nils () hemmann de> wrote:
I'm still not quite sure what Paul is aiming for but my take on this is, just provide a trunk link to the virtual machines and let the system's driver take care of the 802.1q tagged packets. Then you can handle a bunch of VLANs on a single system and see how you can manipulate them. You would need a 802.1q capable switch for the trunk link though.
Its not Paul, its me and what I want to do is to experiment with setting up and sniffing VLANs. Things like, can I hop VLANs easily, if I put a sniffer at point X what can I see, what about point Y? If I can do this in a VM lab then it is much easier to do than to do it in the physical world. So I want to get the VirtualBox internal switch/router to handle 802.1q packets. Does that make sense? Robin
Nils On 9/16/2010 7:08 PM, Carlos Perez wrote:for voiphopper and other 802.1q I go physical, for jumping segments attacking routing protocols and other stuff with ESX I can do 802.1q in the virtual switches and use the physical one in conjunction On Sep 16, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Robin Wood wrote:On 16 September 2010 16:32, Carlos Perez <carlos_perez () darkoperator com> wrote:righ now I have an old Cisco 3550 for playing with that, best bet would be to get an old cisco, procurve, 3com ..etc from ebay each vendor has it own twist on "Standard Protocols"How is best to tie that into a VM lab? Or do you just mean plug some physical hardware in to it and go from there? I've got enough machines kicking around that I could do a physical lab but space, noise and portability have prevented me from doing it so far.On Sep 16, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Robin Wood wrote:On 16 September 2010 16:08, Matthew Manor <kingmanor () gmail com> wrote:Have you tried Vyatta? It can do most of what Cisco IOS can do but virtually, including VLANs, and you can certainly run an entire lab of VMs off of it.I've just had a quick look through it but can't tell if it would help or not. I want to put different machines in my VirtualBox lab onto different VLANs so I can experiment with them. Do you know if their software product would do that?-Matt Manor On 9/16/10, Carlos Perez <carlos_perez () darkoperator com> wrote:Do you mean having a switch with 802.1q? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2010, at 5:03 AM, Robin Wood <robin () digininja org> wrote:Is there any way to setup a VLAN environment in a virtual environment? They are something I've never had much chance to play with and I'd love to get it labbed up so I can. I know there are virtual systems for running IOS images but don't think I could then hang a bunch of VMs off those machines. Preferably VirtualBox methods but any VM will do. Robin _______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list Pauldotcom () mail pauldotcom com http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com_______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list Pauldotcom () mail pauldotcom com http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com-- Sent from my mobile device _______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list Pauldotcom () mail pauldotcom com http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com_______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list Pauldotcom () mail pauldotcom com http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com_______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list Pauldotcom () mail pauldotcom com http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com_______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list Pauldotcom () mail pauldotcom com http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com_______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list Pauldotcom () mail pauldotcom com http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com_______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list Pauldotcom () mail pauldotcom com http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com
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Current thread:
- Re: VLANs in VM, (continued)
- Re: VLANs in VM Carlos Perez (Sep 16)
- Re: VLANs in VM Matthew Manor (Sep 16)
- Re: VLANs in VM Robin Wood (Sep 16)
- Re: VLANs in VM Carlos Perez (Sep 16)
- Re: VLANs in VM Colin Vallance (Sep 16)
- Re: VLANs in VM Robin Wood (Sep 17)
- Re: VLANs in VM Robin Wood (Sep 16)
- Re: VLANs in VM Carlos Perez (Sep 16)
- Re: VLANs in VM Nils (Sep 17)
- Re: VLANs in VM Robin Wood (Sep 17)
- Re: VLANs in VM Chuck Sanderson (Sep 17)
- Re: VLANs in VM Nils (Sep 17)
- Re: VLANs in VM Robin Wood (Sep 18)
- Re: VLANs in VM Matthew Manor (Sep 16)
- Re: VLANs in VM Carlos Perez (Sep 16)
- Re: VLANs in VM Robin Wood (Sep 17)