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Question about PCI audit results and reality....


From: tadaka at gmail.com (Jason Wood)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:23:46 -0600

So I have a "hypothetical" situation that I'd like some ideas on.

Say you go through a PCI audit and certain things that you know are a
problem are not marked as such by the auditor.  (we can get into getting a
new QSA later)  To make up a completely fake scenario, lets say that item
15.3 requires all squirrels to wear helmets when running the credit card
numbers from the web server to the database server.  (squirrelNet anyone?)
The QSA says that there are no problems and that the squirrels are wearing
helmets properly.  The issue is that the helmets are made of newspaper and
don't look like a helmet from anything beyond a passing glance.

As the admin/squirrel handler, I want to justify getting proper helmets on
the squirrels.  However, here's this audit report which states that there's
no problem here.  How do you go about justifying "real" squirrel helmets
when the QSA says everything is good.  Chances are good management is going
to look at the report and tell you to leave the newspaper hats in place
because it is good enough for the QSA.

Short of calling up the QSA and asking him WTF (and getting in hot water for
doing so), how do you deal with this?

Here's some of the ideas that have occurred to me:

   - Explain to management what squirrel helmets really are supposed to be
   and that not every QSA is going to be so... casual about them.
   - Explain that PCI is a minimum set of requirements and doesn't insure
   actual security.
   - Club a squirrel on the head and demonstrate that newspaper isn't an
   adequate helmet.

How do you deal with justifying security improvements when an audit report
says that everything is blue skies and happy days?

Thanks,
Jason

P.S.  SquirrelNet was inspired by @beaker and no actual squirrels were used
to run credit card numbers or were clubbed on the head while writing this
email.

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irc: Tadaka
Twitter:  Jason_Wood
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