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Re: Thousands of vulnerabilities, almost no CVEs: OSS-Fuzz


From: Bob Friesenhahn <bfriesen () simple dallas tx us>
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 08:41:08 -0500 (CDT)

On Mon, 24 Jun 2019, Alex Gaynor wrote:
- Not having sooooo many vulnerabilities. While there's some dispute over
just what % of the bugs that OSS-Fuzz and syzbot turn up are exploitable,
there's no doubt that they find a _lot_ of them. Even if only 20% of
OSS-Fuzz reports were truly exploitable vulnerabilities, that'd still be
600 of them. We can't produce this many vulnerabilities and then try to
clean up afterwards by finding them with fuzzing -- at some point the
number of vulnerabilities simply overwhelms us. Tactics for reducing
vulnerabilities in the first instance, like memory safe languages, are an
important part of making this problem tractable.

Do folks feel like there were important themes that this misses?

I see the assumption that 20% of oss-fuzz reports are exploitable vulnerabilities. Where does this percentage estimate come from? What does it mean to be "exploitable"?

From working on fixing oss-fuzz detected bugs in GraphicsMagick I see
that many/most of the issues are not significant from a security standpoint, assuming that the software is deployed in a way suitable for its level of exposure. Common issues include:

 * Huge uninitialized memory allocations (which do not really matter
   under Linux since Linux does not reserve anything but virtual
   memory space).

 * Consumption of uninitialized data (e.g. image data) which is not
   used to make important decisions.  This is usually due to unhandled
   cases or error handling which does not quit immediately.

 * Tiny heap over-reads which are not past the bounds of the
   underlying allocation.

 * Heap over-reads or over-writes which cause an immediate core dump.

 * Excessively slow code with the slowness emphasized by ASAN and
   UBSAN code running vastly slower.  The excessively slow code is not
   necessarily noticeable in a normal compilation.

 * Memory leaks.

 * "undefined behavior" which nevertheless has a common behavior that
   compilers have followed since the dawn of time.

The most important thing that oss-fuzz contributes is a large collection of files which cause problems for unfixed software such that only the unaware or foolish do not update to fixed versions.

Bob
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Bob Friesenhahn
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GraphicsMagick Maintainer,    http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/
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