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Re: Re: Fwd: x86 ROP mitigation


From: Josh Bressers <bressers () redhat com>
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 15:16:07 -0500 (EST)


It's not going to be increasing the cost of exploit development if it
only means a script ends up finding different gadgets instead. Maybe it
leads to better tooling being developed if it's far enough along, but
that's one person investing their time once, not every exploit taking
more resources to develop. If it's incomplete, how is it a layer?


It's the first step of a very long road.

This attitude is quite pervasive across security people, and it's not a
very good one. Just because the first iteration of a technology isn't
perfect, or the ideas have room for improvement is no reason to go all
negative.

Sometimes great ideas start out like this. If it's a bad idea, it won't
stick around for long. There are few instances where doing nothing is
better than doing something.

-- 
    JB


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