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Re: can we talk about secure time?
From: John Haxby <john.haxby () oracle com>
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 10:15:18 +0000
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 22/12/14 05:51, Hanno Böck wrote:
On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:31:07 +0100 Florian Weimer <fw () deneb enyo de> wrote:Some folks want to run their servers within a few milliseconds of each other, and do not care so much about security or resiliency.I perfectly understand that some people need more accuracy than tlsdate can give. However it's probably rare, right? I don't see any reason why average consumer hardware (Desktop, smartphone etc.) would have any problem with the 1-2 sec max inaccuracy of tlsdate.
Basically to agree with Kurt: reconciling logs across multiple systems often requires clocks to agree to within a few milliseconds a most. The log files you're trying to reconcile may be from machines on different continents as well which is why ntp is so useful: everyone has the same idea of time. The potential for an added or removed second at end of of June and December can cause some excitement. I've also known a one or two second discrepancy break 'make'. That was probably more to do with the fragility of that particular build system rather than a a clock synchronization issue, but the point is that properly accurate time is important to a lot of people. jch -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iF4EAREIAAYFAlSX7y0ACgkQRQu7fpQvo8itMQD9Fbuiov2yuXo+3TOpuQxaD/if ZzCPwr93TbZ8PNIuYdYA/jUWPz7KyOTs6+0S8M/WP53pgJyBY77Y4ei72Txl7KrA =fN2l -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Current thread:
- Re: can we talk about secure time?, (continued)
- Re: can we talk about secure time? Daniel Micay (Dec 20)
- Re: can we talk about secure time? Florian Weimer (Dec 21)
- Re: can we talk about secure time? Daniel Micay (Dec 21)
- Re: can we talk about secure time? Dave Horsfall (Dec 21)
- leap seconds and security [was: Re: can we talk about secure time?] Daniel Kahn Gillmor (Dec 21)
- Re: can we talk about secure time? Florian Weimer (Dec 21)
- Re: can we talk about secure time? Hanno Böck (Dec 21)
- Re: can we talk about secure time? Kurt Seifried (Dec 21)
- Re: can we talk about secure time? Hanno Böck (Dec 21)
- Re: can we talk about secure time? Walter Parker (Dec 21)
- Re: can we talk about secure time? John Haxby (Dec 22)
- Re: can we talk about secure time? Dave Horsfall (Dec 22)
- Re: can we talk about secure time? Richard Johnson (Dec 25)