Re: Pulling of Network Maps

[Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>]

and I get how that could be. We had a design. Gave the prints to the contractors. Someone internally verified the 
contractors built what was on the prints. A year or two goes by and some laterals ended up costing more because 
handholes on the prints were never built. Our locator goes to a handhole to send his signal and the handhole doesn't 
exist or finds a handhole in a spot not on the prints. Always fun managing OSP. 




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From: "William Herrin" <bill () herrin us> 
To: "Tom Beecher" <beecher () beecher cc> 
Cc: "Mike Hammett" <nanog () ics-il net>, "NANOG" <nanog () nanog org> 
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 12:33:25 PM 
Subject: Re: Pulling of Network Maps 

On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 10:01 AM Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc> wrote: 
> My experience with maps over the last decade tells me that even most vendors don't actually know where they are. :) 

So true. And not that young a problem. I leased some dark fiber more 
than a decade ago. They sent an unexpectedly expensive build proposal 
to connect my building. I asked: "Why are you trenching to the manhole 
down the street instead of the one right outside?" They asked, "what 
manhole?" Long story short, they dispatched a guy who popped the 
cover, pumped the water out of the vault and confirmed that they had a 
location they didn't know about. 

Regards, 
Bill Herrin 


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