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Re: Smaller than a /24 for BGP?


From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)" <lists () packetflux com>
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2023 20:12:47 -0800

I have two thoughts in relation to this:

1) It's amazing how many threads end up ending in the (correct) summary
that making an even minor global change to the way the internet works
and/or is configured to enable some potentially useful feature isn't likely
to happen.

2) I'd really like to be able to tag a BGP announcement with "only use this
announcement as an absolute last resort" so I don't have to break my
prefixes in half in those cases where I have a backup path that needs to
only be used as a last resort.  (Today each prefix I have to do this with
results in 3 prefixes in the table where one would do).

And yes. I know #2 is precluded from actually ever happening because of
#1.   The irony is not lost on me.


On Tue, Jan 24, 2023, 7:54 PM John Levine <johnl () iecc com> wrote:

It appears that Chris J. Ruschmann <chris () scsalaska net> said:
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How do you plan on getting rid of all the filters that don’t accept
anything less than a /24?

In all seriousness If I have these, I’d imagine everyone else does too.

Right. Since the Internet has no settlements, there is no way to
persuade a network of whom you are not a customer to accept your
announcements if they don't want to, and even for the largest
networks, that is 99% of the other networks in the world. So no,
they're not going to accept your /25 no matter how deeply you believe
that they should.

I'm kind of surprised that we haven't seen pushback against sloppily
disaggregated announcements.  It is my impression that the route table
would be appreciably smaller if a few networks combined adjacent a
bunch of /24's into larger blocks.

R's,
John


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