Re: Spectrum (legacy TWC) Infrastructure - Contact Off List

[Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke () gmail com>]

It might look low cost until you look at a post-1980s suburb in the USA or
Canada where 100% of the utilities are underground. There may be no fiber
or duct routes. Just old coax used for DOCSIS3 owned/run by the local cable
incumbent and copper POTS wiring belonging to the ILEC. The cost to
retrofit such a neighborhood and reach every house with a fiber
architecture can be quite high in construction and labor.



On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 9:14 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
lists () packetflux com> wrote:

> The cost to build physical layer in much of the suburban and somewhat
> rural US is low enough anymore that lots of smaller, independent, ISPs are
> overbuilding the incumbent with fiber and taking a big chunk of their
> customer base because they are local and care.  And making money while
> doing it.
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2023, 8:22 AM Masataka Ohta <
> mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp> wrote:
>
> > Mike Hammett wrote:
> >
> > > I selfishly hope they don't because that's where independent
> > > operators will succeed. ;-)
> >
> > Because of natural regional monopoly at physical layer (cabling
> > cost for a certain region is same between competitors but their
> > revenues are proportional to their regional market shares), they
> > can't succeed unless the physical layer is regulated to be
> > unbundled, which is hard with PON.
> >
> > But, in US where regional telephone network has been operated
> > by, unlike Europe/Japan, a private company enjoying natural
> > regional monopoly, economic situation today should be no worse
> > than that at that time.
> >
> >                                                 Masataka Ohta