Re: Spectrum (legacy TWC) Infrastructure - Contact Off List

[Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>]

In no way is what I said wrong. Incumbent operators (coax or copper pairs) screw things up constantly (whether 
technically or in the business side of things), prompting a sea of independent operators to overbuild them (or fill in 
where they haven't). I was responding specifically to what Eric said, "I wish that the people running the networks at 
residential last mile operators with many hundreds of thousands up to dozens of millions of CPEs would push back 
against efforts from executives/management to participate in this race to the bottom of cost and network quality." 


I don't mean non-RBOC ILECs. I mean WISPs, regional fiber operators, Bob from down the street that retired and built a 
fiber company to serve his small town. I mean companies with less than 10,000 customers and are younger than 20 years. 
There are literally thousands of them in the US and they're only getting more formidable in the face of lousy 
incumbents. 


Oh, and I just noticed that spell check moved me away from condescension, rather than closer to it. Oops. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Masataka Ohta" <mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp> 
To: nanog () nanog org 
Sent: Monday, February 6, 2023 8:27:07 AM 
Subject: Re: Spectrum (legacy TWC) Infrastructure - Contact Off List 

Mike Hammett wrote: 

> Where did you think that condensation was going to get you in 
> this conversation? 

I was involved in this thread because of your totally wrong 
statement of: 

: I selfishly hope they don't because that's where independent 
: operators will succeed. ;-) 

First of all, "Spectrum (legacy TWC)" is not a small company. 

Moreover, as is stated in wikipedia that: 

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incumbent_local_exchange_carrier 
> Various regional independents also held incumbent monopolies 
> in their respective regions. 

many independent operators are keep succeeding for 100+ years 
not because they unreasonably cut maintenance cost but because 
they have archived regional monopoly. 

Masataka Ohta