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Re: [External] Re: Normal ARIN registration service fees for LRSA entrants after 31 Dec 2023 (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Availability of the Legacy Fee Cap for New LRSA Entrants Ending as of 31 December 2023)
From: Rubens Kuhl <rubensk () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2022 13:04:10 +0800
On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 12:45 PM William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 9:09 PM Rubens Kuhl <rubensk () gmail com> wrote:On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 11:55 AM William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:No, the best option for me right now is that I just don't participate in RPKI and the system has one less participant. And that's a shame.That's only true in the current environment where RPKI is only used to invalidate bogus routes. When any reachability for RPKI-unknowns is lost, that will change.Hi Rubens, If you want to bet me on folks ever deciding to discard RPKI-unknowns down in the legacy class C's I'll be happy to take your money.
I don't think people will look at even the class, and definitively not to legacy or non-legacy partitions. They will either drop it all, or not drop it at all. Note that when the only IP blocks that spammers and abusers can inject in the system are non-signed ones, those blocks will get bad reputations pretty fast. So the legacy holders use case for RPKI might come sooner than you think.
Anyway, the risk/reward calculation for NOT signing the LRSA right now is really a no-brainer. It's just unfortunate that means I won't get an early start on RPKI.
Discarding RPKI-invalids is something you can do right now and that doesn't come with a price tag. Good BCP38 and RPKI-invalid hygiene is the thankless gift you can give to the community. Rubens
Current thread:
- Re: [External] Re: Normal ARIN registration service fees for LRSA entrants after 31 Dec 2023 (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Availability of the Legacy Fee Cap for New LRSA Entrants Ending as of 31 December 2023), (continued)
- Re: [External] Re: Normal ARIN registration service fees for LRSA entrants after 31 Dec 2023 (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Availability of the Legacy Fee Cap for New LRSA Entrants Ending as of 31 December 2023) Rubens Kuhl (Sep 15)
- Re: [External] Re: Normal ARIN registration service fees for LRSA entrants after 31 Dec 2023 (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Availability of the Legacy Fee Cap for New LRSA Entrants Ending as of 31 December 2023) William Herrin (Sep 15)
- Re: [External] Re: Normal ARIN registration service fees for LRSA entrants after 31 Dec 2023 (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Availability of the Legacy Fee Cap for New LRSA Entrants Ending as of 31 December 2023) Rubens Kuhl (Sep 15)
- Re: [External] Re: Normal ARIN registration service fees for LRSA entrants after 31 Dec 2023 (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Availability of the Legacy Fee Cap for New LRSA Entrants Ending as of 31 December 2023) William Herrin (Sep 15)
- Re: [External] Re: Normal ARIN registration service fees for LRSA entrants after 31 Dec 2023 (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Availability of the Legacy Fee Cap for New LRSA Entrants Ending as of 31 December 2023) Rubens Kuhl (Sep 15)
- Re: [External] Re: Normal ARIN registration service fees for LRSA entrants after 31 Dec 2023 (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Availability of the Legacy Fee Cap for New LRSA Entrants Ending as of 31 December 2023) William Herrin (Sep 15)
- Re: [External] Re: Normal ARIN registration service fees for LRSA entrants after 31 Dec 2023 (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Availability of the Legacy Fee Cap for New LRSA Entrants Ending as of 31 December 2023) Rubens Kuhl (Sep 15)
- Re: [External] Re: Normal ARIN registration service fees for LRSA entrants after 31 Dec 2023 (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Availability of the Legacy Fee Cap for New LRSA Entrants Ending as of 31 December 2023) William Herrin (Sep 15)
- Re: [External] Re: Normal ARIN registration service fees for LRSA entrants after 31 Dec 2023 (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Availability of the Legacy Fee Cap for New LRSA Entrants Ending as of 31 December 2023) Rubens Kuhl (Sep 15)
- Re: [External] Re: Normal ARIN registration service fees for LRSA entrants after 31 Dec 2023 (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Availability of the Legacy Fee Cap for New LRSA Entrants Ending as of 31 December 2023) William Herrin (Sep 15)
- Re: [External] Re: Normal ARIN registration service fees for LRSA entrants after 31 Dec 2023 (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Availability of the Legacy Fee Cap for New LRSA Entrants Ending as of 31 December 2023) Rubens Kuhl (Sep 15)
- Re: [External] Normal ARIN registration service fees for LRSA entrants after 31 Dec 2023 (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Availability of the Legacy Fee Cap for New LRSA Entrants Ending as of 31 December 2023) Owen DeLong via NANOG (Sep 18)
- Re: [External] Normal ARIN registration service fees for LRSA entrants after 31 Dec 2023 (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Availability of the Legacy Fee Cap for New LRSA Entrants Ending as of 31 December 2023) Alex Band (Sep 18)
- Re: [External] Normal ARIN registration service fees for LRSA entrants after 31 Dec 2023 (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Availability of the Legacy Fee Cap for New LRSA Entrants Ending as of 31 December 2023) Owen DeLong via NANOG (Sep 18)
- Re: [External] Normal ARIN registration service fees for LRSA entrants after 31 Dec 2023 (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Availability of the Legacy Fee Cap for New LRSA Entrants Ending as of 31 December 2023) Alex Band (Sep 18)
- RE: [External] Re: Normal ARIN registration service fees for LRSA entrants after 31 Dec 2023 (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Availability of the Legacy Fee Cap for New LRSA Entrants Ending as of 31 December 2023) Tom Krenn via NANOG (Sep 16)
- Re: [External] Normal ARIN registration service fees for LRSA entrants after 31 Dec 2023 (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Availability of the Legacy Fee Cap for New LRSA Entrants Ending as of 31 December 2023) Owen DeLong via NANOG (Sep 18)
- RE: [External] Re: Normal ARIN registration service fees for LRSA entrants after 31 Dec 2023 (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Availability of the Legacy Fee Cap for New LRSA Entrants Ending as of 31 December 2023) Tom Krenn via NANOG (Sep 15)
- Re: [External] Normal ARIN registration service fees for LRSA entrants after 31 Dec 2023 (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Availability of the Legacy Fee Cap for New LRSA Entrants Ending as of 31 December 2023) John Curran (Sep 15)
- RE: [External] Normal ARIN registration service fees for LRSA entrants after 31 Dec 2023 (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Availability of the Legacy Fee Cap for New LRSA Entrants Ending as of 31 December 2023) Tom Krenn via NANOG (Sep 16)
- Re: [External] Normal ARIN registration service fees for LRSA entrants after 31 Dec 2023 (was: Fwd: [arin-announce] Availability of the Legacy Fee Cap for New LRSA Entrants Ending as of 31 December 2023) John Curran (Sep 16)