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Re: [External] Normal ARIN registration service fees for LRSA entrants after 31 Dec 2023


From: John Gilmore <gnu () toad com>
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 19:48:10 -0700

John Curran <jcurran () arin net> wrote:
[challenges by legacy registrants] has been before judges and resolved
numerous times.

We’ve actually had the matter before many judges, and have never been
ordered to do anything other than operate the registry per the number
resource policy as developed by this community – this has been the
consistent outcome throughout both civil and bankruptcy
proceedings.

Is there a public archive of these court proceedings?  Or even a list
of which cases have involved ARIN (or another RIR)?

What can the community learn from what help resource holders have asked
courts for, and what help they eventually got?

        John

PS: Re another RIR: There's a short list of some of the ~50 lawsuits
against AFRINIC in its Wikipedia page:

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFRINIC#Controversies_&_Scandals

These are mostly to do with corruption, theft, and harassment.  But an
important subtheme includes what power AFRINIC has to seize IP addresses
that were legitimately allocated to recipients.  In the "Cloud
Innovation" case, CI got addresses under standard policy, but years
later, as I recall, AFRINIC tried to retroactively impose a new "no
renting vm's" policy and a new requirement that all the addresses be
hosted in Africa, even by global customers.  After AFRINIC threatened to
immediately revoke CI's membership and take back the addresses over
this, CI sued AFRINIC to keep the status quo, keeping their business
alive, while the courts sort out whether AFRINIC has the power to do so.
Since then, it's mostly been procedural scuffling and some bad faith
negotiations.  If neither party goes bankrupt nor settles, it's possible
that the courts of Mauritius will answer the question about whether
their RIR has the power to impose new policies and then reclaim
allocated addresses for violating them.


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