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Re: any dangers of filtering every /24 on full internet table to preserve FIB space ?
From: Matthew Petach <mpetach () netflight com>
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2022 01:02:03 -0700
On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 7:03 PM William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 5:32 PM Matthew Petach <mpetach () netflight com> wrote: [...] All TCP/IP routing is more-specific route first. That is the expected behavior. I honestly don't fathom your view that BGP is or should be different from that norm. If the origin of a covering route has no problem sinking the traffic when the more-specific is offline, I don't see the problem. You shouldn't be taking them offline with route filtering.
*facepalm* Right. That's the entire point I started off the subthread with. The problem lay with an organization that *did* have a problem sinking the traffic when the more-specific was not available. They had chunked up their allocation into smaller pieces which were distributed to different island locations with no internal network connectivity to the island sites. They were announcing a covering prefix for all the more specifics, where the covering less specific announcement had no reachability to the more specifics; so when a network filtered out the more specifics, the traffic fell on the floor, because it was sent to a location that was announcing the supernet that had no reachability to the correct destination. Their assumption that *everyone* would hear the more specifics, and thus the traffic would flow to the right island location was the "failure to understand BGP" that I was commenting on, and noting that while it is entirely correct to decide if you want to filter prefixes of an arbitrary length from entering your network, you may discover in the process that other networks that do not understand BGP and routing in general may complain that you have Broken The Internet(tm) by doing so. Assuming that your announcement of more specifics will always pull traffic away from a less-specific announcement is overly-optimistic. While it may *often* work, you should still be prepared to deal with traffic arriving at your least-specific announcement as well. This turned out to be something that not every network on the Internet fully grasps, and my original message was warning that filtering on /24s would potentially bring complaints from networks like those. It took a roundabout path, but I'm glad we eventually both ended up at the same place. :) Thanks! Matt
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- Re: any dangers of filtering every /24 on full internet table to preserve FIB space ?, (continued)
- Re: any dangers of filtering every /24 on full internet table to preserve FIB space ? Matthew Petach (Oct 10)
- Re: any dangers of filtering every /24 on full internet table to preserve FIB space ? Ryan Rawdon (Oct 10)
- Re: any dangers of filtering every /24 on full internet table to preserve FIB space ? Jeff Tantsura (Oct 10)
- Re: any dangers of filtering every /24 on full internet table to preserve FIB space ? Mark Tinka (Oct 10)
- Re: any dangers of filtering every /24 on full internet table to preserve FIB space ? William Herrin (Oct 11)
- Re: any dangers of filtering every /24 on full internet table to preserve FIB space ? Matthew Petach (Oct 11)
- Re: any dangers of filtering every /24 on full internet table to preserve FIB space ? William Herrin (Oct 11)
- Re: any dangers of filtering every /24 on full internet table to preserve FIB space ? Richard Golodner (Oct 11)
- Re: any dangers of filtering every /24 on full internet table to preserve FIB space ? Matthew Petach (Oct 11)
- Re: any dangers of filtering every /24 on full internet table to preserve FIB space ? William Herrin (Oct 11)
- Re: any dangers of filtering every /24 on full internet table to preserve FIB space ? Matthew Petach (Oct 16)
- Re: any dangers of filtering every /24 on full internet table to preserve FIB space ? William Herrin (Oct 16)
- Re: any dangers of filtering every /24 on full internet table to preserve FIB space ? Owen DeLong via NANOG (Oct 16)
- Re: any dangers of filtering every /24 on full internet table to preserve FIB space ? Matthew Petach (Oct 10)
- Re: any dangers of filtering every /24 on full internet table to preserve FIB space ? Andrey Kostin (Oct 12)
- Re: any dangers of filtering every /24 on full internet table to preserve FIB space ? William Herrin (Oct 12)
- Re: any dangers of filtering every /24 on full internet table to preserve FIB space ? David Conrad (Oct 12)
- Re: any dangers of filtering every /24 on full internet table to preserve FIB space ? Andrey Kostin (Oct 14)
- Re: any dangers of filtering every /24 on full internet table to preserve FIB space ? Jon Lewis (Oct 12)
- Re: any dangers of filtering every /24 on full internet table to preserve FIB space ? Joe Provo (Oct 15)
- Re: any dangers of filtering every /24 on full internet table to preserve FIB space ? Raymond Burkholder (Oct 10)