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Re: V6 still not supported


From: "Pascal Thubert \(pthubert\) via NANOG" <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 06:01:36 +0000

Hello John

You’ve got something dead wrong about the history of IPR, there’s certainly no idea of monopoly. 

What we do when there’s market interest is write an RFC and RAND the rights. There is 25 years of IETF history to prove 
that. 

Another angle is that the change is in the host stack for the most part and we have no play in it. Without freedom for 
open source implementation the idea can not succeed.

You may wonder why we go through the hassle and cost?  The history of MPLS would certainly enlighten you on that. This 
is not a world where you can live without defensive weapons.

No one yet answered me on the technical aspects. That kind of baffles me.

Keep safe;

Pascal

Le 25 mars 2022 à 03:17, John Gilmore <gnu () toad com> a écrit :

Pascal Thubert \(pthubert\) via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> wrote:
I'm personally fond of the IP-in-IP variation that filed in 20+ years
ago as US patent 7,356,031.

No wonder -- you are listed as the co-inventor!

Just the fact that it is patented (and the patent is still unexpired)
would make it a disfavored candidate for an Internet transition technology.

It was not nice of y'all to try to get a monopoly over nesting headers
for making an overlay network that tunnels things to distant routers.
You have to certify that your work is original in order to even apply
for a patent.  So, nobody had ever thought of that before y'all did?  Really?

   John
   

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