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Re: V6 still not supported
From: Saku Ytti <saku () ytti fi>
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2022 08:59:31 +0200
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 at 03:32, <bzs () theworld com> wrote:
I'll mention, as I often do at this point in this conversation over the past few decades, that nothing stops you from designing and implementing such a network and, for demonstration / proof of concept purposes at least, floating it on top of IP. Build a better mouse trap...
I'm taking some liberties here. I suspect Joe implied it as an undesirable outcome which may happen organically unless some unspecified actions are taken. And Matt suggested some unspecified IPv4.1 as a desirable outcome. Anyone pushing on fixing IPv4 likely has complete confusion why IPv6 adoption is struggling. IPv6 is kind of terrible, but a lot of that terribleness is now paid with heavy cost. The ship has sailed for something meaningfully better. Trying to deliver some strategic fix now throws all those investments to trash and there is little guarantee whatever we'd deliver instead would be meaningfully better, and high risk we'd just make it yet worse. IPv6 is shit, but we can make it go, and we need the address space. We don't need IPv4. If I understood Joe right, I share that sentiment. I want single stack IP, IPv6 is the only option, and I'm afraid it might not happen.
On March 17, 2022 at 23:34 mattlists () rivervalleyinternet net (Matt Hoppes) wrote: > At this point I would *love* to see IPv4 get extended, a software patch > applied to devices, and IPv6 die a quick painless death. > > > > > Its not impossible to envision that IPv4 does not ever go away but > > actually gets extended in such a way that it obsoletes IPv6. The longer > > this drags out the less implausible it seems. > > > > Joe
-- ++ytti
Current thread:
- Re: V6 still not supported, (continued)
- Re: V6 still not supported John Levine (Mar 19)
- Re: V6 still not supported Mark Delany (Mar 19)
- RE: V6 still not supported Vasilenko Eduard via NANOG (Mar 21)
- Re: V6 still not supported Owen DeLong via NANOG (Mar 21)
- Re: V6 still not supported Bjørn Mork (Mar 21)
- Re: V6 still not supported Owen DeLong via NANOG (Mar 22)
- Re: V6 still not supported Randy Carpenter (Mar 19)
- Re: V6 still not supported borg (Mar 20)
- Re: V6 still not supported John Levine (Mar 18)
- Re: V6 still not supported bzs (Mar 18)
- Re: V6 still not supported Saku Ytti (Mar 19)
- Re: V6 still not supported Masataka Ohta (Mar 20)
- Re: V6 still not supported Randy Carpenter (Mar 09)
- Re: V6 still not supported Seth Mattinen (Mar 09)
- Re: V6 still not supported (was Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) Tim Howe (Mar 09)
- Re: V6 still not supported (was Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) Dave Taht (Mar 09)
- Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock John R. Levine (Mar 09)
- Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock David Conrad (Mar 09)
- Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock John Levine (Mar 09)
- Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock David Conrad (Mar 09)
- Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock John R. Levine (Mar 09)