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Re: What do you think about the "cloudification" of mobile?


From: Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com>
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 10:09:15 -0800


On 1/25/22 6:11 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Mark,

Use the 12 foot ladder to get over the 10 foot paywall:

https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.economist.com%2Fbusiness%2Fwill-the-cloud-business-eat-the-5g-telecoms-industry%2F21806999

Yeah, sorry I didn't know what their paywall looked like since I subscribe

Mike



On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 4:12 AM Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa> wrote:



    On 1/19/22 21:52, Michael Thomas wrote:

    >
    > There was an article in the Economist (sorry if it's paywalled)
    about
    > Dish entering the mobile market using an AWS backend. I don't think
    > that AWS brings much more than compute for the most part so I don't
    > really get why this would be a huge win. A win maybe, but a huge
    win?
    > I can certainly see that not having tons of legacy and accreted
    > inertia is big win, but that's true of any disruptor. In the end
    they
    > still need base stations, spectrum, backhaul and all of that to run
    > their network, right?
    >
    > Am I missing something, or is this mainly hype?
    >
    > Mike
    >
    >
    https://www.economist.com/business/will-the-cloud-business-eat-the-5g-telecoms-industry/21806999

    >

    It's behind a pay wall, so can't read the entire article.

    But AFAICT, the way AWS's 5G service works is that they can
    provide an
    entire solution (towers, backhaul, back-end, even SIM cards), or just
    the back-end.

    I believe the latter is called Wavelength:

    https://aws.amazon.com/wavelength/features/

    I'd say it is a legitimate threat to traditional MNO's. One does not
    require to build a national-scale mobile network from scratch...
    if you
    can service a small community of some 500 people in a manner that is
    affordable to them, and gives you a nice return so you can buy
    some food
    at the end of each month, no reason why that is not a successful and
    sustainable model.

    Heck, you probably don't even need to offer classic voice and SMS
    services. There are plenty of IP-based apps that will do this for
    you,
    and I know many people who have totally given up packages that
    include
    voice minutes and SMS messages, in favour of data-only services from
    their MNO. They are thriving.

    So if a small mobile operator using AWS 5G as a back-end does not
    need
    to negotiate massive interconnect contracts and deals with other
    telco's
    in the area, and their handful of customers are fine with just
    Internet
    access as the only service, makes a lot of sense to me.

    As I've been saying for a long time now, the telco model is a
    dying one.
    Customers only care about the problems we can help them solve, not
    whether we are a Tier-1, or how many TV shows were "Brought to you
    by..."

    Mark.

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