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Re: [External] Re: What do you think about this airline vs 5G brouhaha?


From: Keenan Tims <ktims () stargate ca>
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 10:45:20 -0800

On 2022-01-20 00:49, Mark Tinka wrote:
Furthermore, the AoA "Disagree Alert" message that would need to appear on the pilot's display in the case of an AoA sensor failure, was an "optional extra", which most airlines elected not to add to the purchase order, e.g., Air Canada, American Airlines and Westjet all bought the extra feature, but Lion Air didn't.

There were a huge number of failures at Boeing in the MAX/MCAS program; it's clear the program if not the whole company was rotten to the core; but this isn't quite an accurate characterization of that particular failure.

The AOA DISAGREE alert was never intended as an optional feature. However either due to a software bug or miscommunication between Boeing and their contractor for the avionics package (Collins?), it got tied to the optional AoA (value) indicator. This was caught *by Boeing* and reported to the contractor, but Boeing instructed them not to fix the problem and defer it to a later software update 3 years later, and never bothered to notify operators or the FAA about the problem.

Somehow it's even worse this way. I don't think a working DISAGREE alarm would have saved the flights, though.

Keenan


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