Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections

[Patrick Clochesy <patrick () mach net>]

California in particular also has more stringent rules for commercial
buildings with seismic requirements. While a nonpen mount is great, you
still have to get the service into the building somehow.

Back in 2005 when I moved to this area, I worked directly across the street
from what is now the stadium - at that time it was Great America's parkling
lot. The area still shows dead on the CA broadband map, but all we could
get was AT&T DSL or your typical telco circuits. This is despite being in a
very urban area in the heart of Silicon Valley, JUST up the road from the
datacenter we used at the time (Globix). We ended up having to do a
wireless P2P to the McAfee building up the road, and getting the cable from
the roof in I'm pretty sure required the contractor to x-ray the roof after
they were done which I believe was pre-stressed concrete panels.

To this day, many of those dead zones still exist. I've been to many RURAL
areas with far more consistent Internet access than Silicon Valley, and it
certainly does seem odd.

-Patrick

On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 7:04 PM Cory Sell via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> wrote:

> Out of pure curiosity, let’s assume they COULD put an antenna on the roof…
>
> What is the service? Bandwidth, latency expectation, cost?
>
> Note that in almost every condominium or apartment complex I have heard
> of, they do NOT allow roof builds. This is why satellite TV in those areas
> require people to put an antenna on their patio, even if it’s half-blocked.
>
> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 6:51 PM, Mike Lyon <mike.lyon () gmail com> wrote:
>
> If they allow antennas on the roof, we can service them :)
>
> Your house, on the other hand, we already lucked out on that one!
>
> -Mike Lyon
> Ridge Wireless
>
> On Feb 16, 2022, at 16:48, Matthew Petach <mpetach () netflight com> wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 1:16 PM Josh Luthman <josh () imaginenetworksllc com>
> wrote:
>
> > I'll once again please ask for specific examples as I continue to see the
> > generic "it isn't in some parts of San Jose".
>
>
> You want a specific example?
>
> Friend of mine asked me to help them get better Internet connectivity a
> few weeks ago.
>
> They live here:
>
> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Meridian+Woods+Condos/@37.3200394,-121.9792261,17.47z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x808fca909a8f5605:0x399cdd468d99300c!8m2!3d37.3190694!4d-121.9818295
>
> Just off of I-280 in the heart of San Jose.
>
> I dug and dug, and called different companies.
> The only service they can get there is the 768K DSL service they already
> have with AT&T.
>
> Go ahead.  Try it for yourself.
>
> See what service you can order to those condos.
>
> Heart of Silicon Valley.
>
> Worse connectivity than many rural areas.   :(
>
> Matt