Re: VZ FIOS and Intel TCP IPv6 Checksum Offload problems

[Niels Bakker <niels=nanog () bakker net>]

* bruns () 2mbit com (Brie) [Mon 29 Aug 2022, 19:38 CEST]:
> On 8/29/22 10:59 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> > Uhm, this includes various versions of the intel pro 1000 card... 
> > so that's a TON of gear, to include like lenovo laptops, for 
> > instance. I'd wager that this is super common in the field.
> > The PDF in the download says;
> >   "Products Affected: All 1gbe and 10gbe intel ethernet controllers...."
>
> So I keep seeing this being pushed as a problem with clients...  but 
> isn't it the ONT that is bugged out and appending the extra data 
> after the checksum is already there (as Bill Herrin points out)?
>
> I know it's asking a lot to expect networking equipment vendors to 
> fix their gear, but...
>
> Unless I'm totally not understanding the bug, which is entirely (and 
> likely).

Here's my speculation on what was happening at Casa Sean.

The Ethernet frame has a length header. The IP frame has a length 
header. Ideally, the IP frame fits completely into the Ethernet frame, 
leaving room for the other required Ethernet bits but nothing more.

I vaguely recall there being some equipment that interpreted the 
minimum MTU requirement in IPv6 as meaning that there was a minimum 
packet size, not a minimum for the *maximum* packet size. Perhaps the 
fiber NTU padded the Ethernet frame up to the minimum MTU, sending 
along a bunch of junk bytes, without otherwise touching the IP packet.

The NIC would then perhaps forget that there were a bunch of junk 
bytes attached to the end of the frame beyond where the IP packet 
would end, and calculate the Ethernet checksum based on the IP packet 
length header, discarding otherwise valid frames as a result.

I've had my own run-ins over the years with supposed checksum 
offloading absolutely not happening on other brands, so implementation 
errors appear to be relatively common.


        -- Niels.