Re: [External] Re: Google Abuse

[Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>]

> some might conclude that "T-Mobile filters links to right-leaning news
> outlets.

That conclusion, based on the methodology described, would be wrong, and
that should be called out.



On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 12:09 PM Hunter Fuller <hf0002+nanog () uah edu> wrote:

> Sure, that's why I said that in my third paragraph.
>
> But once we know that they do, in fact, filter messages, we can
> understand why it might *seem* like they filter based on political
> content.
> For example, if a left-leaning news outlet uses bit.ly URLs, and a
> right-leaning one uses goo.gl URLs, and T-Mo filters all goo.gl URLs,
> some might conclude that "T-Mobile filters links to right-leaning news
> outlets."
>
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> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 11:06 AM Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc> wrote:
> > Spam filtering is clearly not the accusation that was laid out.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 11:48 AM Hunter Fuller <hf0002+nanog () uah edu>
> wrote:
> > > I wouldn't call it a serious claim. By their own admission T-Mobile
> > > filters messages based on content.
> https://community.t-mobile.com/accounts-services-4/can-t-send-receive-texts-that-contain-goo-gl-7776
> > > Now, there is no indication I'm aware of, that it is political in
> > > nature. But they do, factually, throw away messages based on their
> > > content.
> > >
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> > > Network Engineering
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 10:46 AM Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>
> wrote:
> > > > It's a pretty serious claim to say that cell providers were
> selectively not delivering messages based on content.
> > > > Unless you have some more concrete evidence beyond "I sent a few
> texts" , this list is no place for such things, nor the insinuation of
> political agendas.
> > > > On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 10:54 AM Ethan O'Toole <telmnstr () 757 org>
> wrote:
> > > > > > They may tell you they are not but there is no doubt in my mind
> they are and
> > > > > > if they got caught their response would be “Oopsie, my bad”.
> > > > > > -richey
> > > > >
> > > > > During Covid hysteria cellular carriers were definitly scrubbing text
> > > > > messages that contained things against whatever the agenda was.
> > > > >
> > > > > There was no errors from the cellular carriers that the message
> didn't go
> > > > > through, it just never arrived to the destination. Tested it first
> hand,
> > > > > T-Mobile to Verizon, T-Mobile to AT&T and vice versa. Payload was
> links to
> > > > > a few websites that weren't popular with the left, like that Doctor
> Robert
> > > > > Malone guy. These were not using URL shorteners that are sometimes
> > > > > considered spam.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >                         - Ethan