Re: [External] Re: Google Abuse

[Hunter Fuller via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>]

Sure, that's why I said that in my third paragraph.

But once we know that they do, in fact, filter messages, we can
understand why it might *seem* like they filter based on political
content.
For example, if a left-leaning news outlet uses bit.ly URLs, and a
right-leaning one uses goo.gl URLs, and T-Mo filters all goo.gl URLs,
some might conclude that "T-Mobile filters links to right-leaning news
outlets."

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On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 11:06 AM Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc> wrote:
> Spam filtering is clearly not the accusation that was laid out.
>
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 11:48 AM Hunter Fuller <hf0002+nanog () uah edu> wrote:
> > I wouldn't call it a serious claim. By their own admission T-Mobile
> > filters messages based on content.
> >
> > https://community.t-mobile.com/accounts-services-4/can-t-send-receive-texts-that-contain-goo-gl-7776
> >
> > Now, there is no indication I'm aware of, that it is political in
> > nature. But they do, factually, throw away messages based on their
> > content.
> >
> > --
> > Hunter Fuller (they)
> > Router Jockey
> > VBH M-1C
> > +1 256 824 5331
> >
> > Office of Information Technology
> > The University of Alabama in Huntsville
> > Network Engineering
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 10:46 AM Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc> wrote:
> > > It's a pretty serious claim to say that cell providers were selectively not delivering messages based on content.
> > >
> > > Unless you have some more concrete evidence beyond "I sent a few texts" , this list is no place for such things, 
> > > nor the insinuation of political agendas.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 10:54 AM Ethan O'Toole <telmnstr () 757 org> wrote:
> > > > > They may tell you they are not but there is no doubt in my mind they are and
> > > > > if they got caught their response would be “Oopsie, my bad”.
> > > > > -richey
> > > >
> > > > During Covid hysteria cellular carriers were definitly scrubbing text
> > > > messages that contained things against whatever the agenda was.
> > > >
> > > > There was no errors from the cellular carriers that the message didn't go
> > > > through, it just never arrived to the destination. Tested it first hand,
> > > > T-Mobile to Verizon, T-Mobile to AT&T and vice versa. Payload was links to
> > > > a few websites that weren't popular with the left, like that Doctor Robert
> > > > Malone guy. These were not using URL shorteners that are sometimes
> > > > considered spam.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >                         - Ethan