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Re: IERS ponders reverse leapsecond...
From: Harlan Stenn <stenn () nwtime org>
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2022 19:41:49 -0700
I've been thinking about this problem for several decades.I believe I have a Good solution to it. It's the General Timestamp API effort at Network Time Foundation.
If you have been paying any attention, you will immediately realize that the effort is stalled because of a lack of funding.
I'm hesitant to say more, as there are some other groups with partial solutions who think they have the complete solution; and since these groups are much better funded, they are happy to forge ahead based on their view of the world.
I will say that the GTSAPI is designed around a "robust mechanism" that can implement every "local policy choice" I have seen around "how do we want to deal with 'time'?"
It addresses using timestamps beyond the execution of the current boot of the local system, and includes conversions between different versions of different timescales, and a library for arithmetic and comparison functions.
H On 8/3/2022 8:33 AM, Matthew Huff wrote:
True, But it's hard enough to get developers to understand the need to code for 61 seconds in a minute, and now they would need to code for 59 seconds as well. If time systems simply skewed the time so that 60 seconds actually just took 61 seconds or 59 seconds, there would be other issues, but coders wouldn't be involved. -----Original Message----- From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+mhuff=ox.com () nanog org> On Behalf Of Stephane Bortzmeyer Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2022 11:19 AM To: Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com> Cc: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: IERS ponders reverse leapsecond... On Wed, Aug 03, 2022 at 11:09:25AM -0400, Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com> wrote a message of 32 lines which said:General press loses its *mind*:Indeed, they seem not to know what they write about. "atomic time – the universal way time is measured on Earth – may have to change" They don't even know the difference between TAI and UTC.
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Current thread:
- IERS ponders reverse leapsecond... Jay Ashworth (Aug 03)
- Re: IERS ponders reverse leapsecond... Stephane Bortzmeyer (Aug 03)
- RE: IERS ponders reverse leapsecond... Matthew Huff (Aug 03)
- RE: IERS ponders reverse leapsecond... Jay Ashworth (Aug 03)
- Re: IERS ponders reverse leapsecond... Marshall Eubanks (Aug 03)
- RE: IERS ponders reverse leapsecond... Peter Beckman (Aug 03)
- Re: IERS ponders reverse leapsecond... Jay R. Ashworth (Aug 03)
- Re: IERS ponders reverse leapsecond... Matthew Kaufman (Aug 08)
- RE: IERS ponders reverse leapsecond... Matthew Huff (Aug 03)
- RE: IERS ponders reverse leapsecond... Daniel Marks via NANOG (Aug 03)
- Re: IERS ponders reverse leapsecond... Harlan Stenn (Aug 08)
- Re: IERS ponders reverse leapsecond... Stephane Bortzmeyer (Aug 03)
- Re: IERS ponders reverse leapsecond... Forrest Christian (List Account) (Aug 03)
- Re: IERS ponders reverse leapsecond... John Levine (Aug 04)
- Re: IERS ponders reverse leapsecond... Forrest Christian (List Account) (Aug 04)
- Re: IERS ponders reverse leapsecond... Jay R. Ashworth (Aug 08)
- Re: IERS ponders reverse leapsecond... Billy Croan (Aug 10)
- Re: IERS ponders reverse leapsecond... John R. Levine (Aug 10)
- Re: IERS ponders reverse leapsecond... Tony Finch (Aug 12)