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Re: [nanog] Re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40
From: "Dan Mahoney (Gushi)" <danm () prime gushi org>
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2022 16:42:25 -0700 (PDT)
On Tue, 5 Apr 2022, Job Snijders via NANOG wrote:
I think all of us recognize a need to declaw "third party" IRR databases like RADB and ALTDB ("declawing" meaning that it is not desirable that anyone can just register *anything*); on the other hand our community also has to be cognizant about there being parts of the Internet which are not squatting on anyone's numbers *and* also are not contracted to a specific RIR.
As one datapoint, two tiny /24's I (not-dayjob) originate are legacy resources. They cannot be added to either RPKI or the ARIN IRR objects without endeavoring to spend an at-least-this-much-money-price-will-only-go-up-over-time amount.
Ironically, to find the way forward, ARIN would require incorporation, the signing of a RSA, and Moar Money for this same organization to have similar v6 blocks, in order to eventually retire these v4 resources.
IRRExplorer presently flags these with a warning "expected object in ARIN db" because there's no programmatic way (via either WHOIS or IRR) to detect a legacy resource that I can find.
This is an edge case which will only diminish over time, but it does exist.
-Dan -- --------Dan Mahoney-------- Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC FB: fb.com/DanielMahoneyIV LI: linkedin.com/in/gushi Site: http://www.gushi.org ---------------------------
Current thread:
- TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 hours until potentially significant routing changes (re: Retirement of ARIN Non-Authenticated IRR scheduled for 4 April 2022) John Curran (Apr 02)
- Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 hours until potentially significant routing changes (re: Retirement of ARIN Non-Authenticated IRR scheduled for 4 April 2022) David Ratkay (Apr 03)
- 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 hours until potentially significant routing changes (re: Retirement of ARIN Non-Authenticated IRR scheduled for 4 April 2022) Job Snijders via NANOG (Apr 04)
- Re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 hours until potentially significant routing changes (re: Retirement of ARIN Non-Authenticated IRR scheduled for 4 April 2022) Kenneth Finnegan (Apr 04)
- Re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 hours until potentially significant routing changes (re: Retirement of ARIN Non-Authenticated IRR scheduled for 4 April 2022) Jon Lewis (Apr 04)
- Re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 hours until potentially significant routing changes (re: Retirement of ARIN Non-Authenticated IRR scheduled for 4 April 2022) Job Snijders via NANOG (Apr 04)
- Re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 hours until potentially significant routing changes (re: Retirement of ARIN Non-Authenticated IRR scheduled for 4 April 2022) Jon Lewis (Apr 04)
- Re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 hours until potentially significant routing changes (re: Retirement of ARIN Non-Authenticated IRR scheduled for 4 April 2022) Job Snijders via NANOG (Apr 04)
- Re: [nanog] Re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 Dan Mahoney (Gushi) (Apr 04)
- Re: [nanog] 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 John Curran (Apr 04)
- Re: [nanog] 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 Owen DeLong via NANOG (Apr 05)
- Re: [nanog] 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 John Curran (Apr 05)
- Re: [nanog] 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 Owen DeLong via NANOG (Apr 06)
- Re: [nanog] 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 John Curran (Apr 07)
- Re: [nanog] 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 Owen DeLong via NANOG (Apr 07)
- Re: [nanog] 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 John Curran (Apr 07)
- Re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 hours until potentially significant routing changes (re: Retirement of ARIN Non-Authenticated IRR scheduled for 4 April 2022) Kenneth Finnegan (Apr 04)
- Re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Dan Mahoney (Gushi) (Apr 05)
- ARIN fee structure (was: re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT) John Curran (Apr 05)
- Re: ARIN fee structure (was: re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT) William Herrin (Apr 05)